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31/08/2013 at 15:20

Hi everyone,

I am hoping to begin growing some veg in my small garden - specifically kale, spinach, beetroot, carrots, broccoli (ordinary & purple sprouting) plus a few other things.  I am a juicer and I want to try and grow some of my own produce organically as I am worried about pesticides etc.

My questions are these:  is okay to grow from conventional seeds rather than pay for organic ones?  I don't want any GMO seeds or anything like that and I don't know if the horror stories I hear from The US apply here in respect of GM seeds, so if anyone can put my mind at rest I'd be really pleased.

Secondly, I have a tiny garden with a small (8ft by 4ft) veg patch,  can I grow any of the crops in containers or pots?  If so is there any specific techniques or advice I should follow?

Thanks for you help - I look forward to any replies.

 

31/08/2013 at 15:23

Hello Stuey

I think it's fair to say that if you only choose heritage varieties or ones that have been knocking around for more than the last ten years or so you will avoid any problems with GM. It's a good point, and one that hadn't crossed my mind.

31/08/2013 at 16:12

Stuey! I'll think you will find if seeds have been GM'd, they are legally bound to state so on the packet, but as WB states, if you stick to the "norm" you will be more than safe enough! 

 

Oh! and all the very best with it! 

Happy Growing! 

31/08/2013 at 16:33

I just found a brilliant website that sells heritage & heirloom seeds - The Real Seed Co - I've ordered a batch and earmarked the page as a fave!  Thanks everyone but does anyone have any advice on using containers?

31/08/2013 at 16:37

I don't think that there is any great difference between growing things in containers and growing them directly in the earth. So long as they have good drainage, plenty of water and light, no strong winds to buffet them and good compost or garden soil then they should do fine.

31/08/2013 at 17:22

Things like Broccolli, Kale! The brassica family need a little room! So would be inclined to put them in the small veg bed, but spinach, beets n carrots will happily grow in containers, n bags! 

31/08/2013 at 17:34

Carrots do really well in containers because there are no stones/lumps/debris to grow round or get in the way. They will be lush, long and straight. Spinach will last longer as potting compost holds more water so they will be less likely to run to seed. Kale and broccoli will be easier to protect from cabbage white caterpillars if grown in pots so invest in some fleece to cover them to keep butterflies off.

I would put your quick croppers in the ground...raddishes, salad leaves etc. Then you can keep planting as you harvest. 

Beetroot either or.

31/08/2013 at 18:14

Slight contradiction to "Addicts" advise! 

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/30309.jpg?width=307&height=350&mode=max

 

 

They take up a lot of room! 

 

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31/08/2013 at 19:42

Depends on the container, I suppose.

01/09/2013 at 15:20

Thanks everyone!  It looks like I joined the right forum to get the knowledge!

01/09/2013 at 18:47
Deano's "Diggin It" wrote (see)

Slight contradiction to "Addicts" advise! 

http://s3.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/30309.jpg?width=350

 

 

They take up a lot of room! 

 

http://s3.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/30310.jpg?width=350

 

 

 

Um... that was the point Deano. He only has a tiny veg patch. If he grows them in the veg patch there will be no room for anything else and they take a long time before they are ready to harvest which means he can't plant anything else in there. Better to have a few in big containers so crops in veg patch can be harvested and other veg or more of the same planted.

BTW love your veg garden 

01/09/2013 at 19:28

Point taken!   But must be some size of a container! 

01/09/2013 at 20:07

LOL  Maybe Stuey might consider digging bigger veg patch!

01/09/2013 at 21:11

You can probably grow most veg in pots but, in terms of crop size and harvest, some veg does do better in the ground.

Spuds in bags, salad leaves and herbs do well in pots, radish, spring onions, spinach and chad do well in troughs. Dwarf varieties of pea's and beans do well in pots , the taller varieties although they can be grown in pots, grow well in the veg plot and take up little ground space.

Brassicas like broccoli, brussels, cabbage and cauli like to deep root and if you only have one veg bed, take up alot of space and need a long growing season, so are not really suitable for pots or small spaces. Calabrese matures early though. I've always grown it in a veg bed, and, just one or two plants, but it's a good cropper, once the head has been taken off it will produce lots of tiny off shoots, maybe worth a try in a pot.   

Roots like beetroot and carrots do well in pots,they mature relatively quickly and can be picked small.    

Outdoor bush toms do well in hanging baskets or pots raised off the ground but need to be kept somewhere warm before planting out time.    

Stuff in pots needs to be watered regularly and the compost shouldn't be allowed to dry out but kept moist otherwise the veg/herb will bolt or simply dies. Where you are only growing one plant in the pot like toms, a layer of gravel or stones helps to stop the compost from drying out, when it's hot and sunny. I've also put in a layer of gravel for beans and pea's grown in pots.     

Blueberries do well in pots too but need the right compost. 

Happy gardening     

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