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11/09/2012 at 08:49

I would like to improve a bed where a big blackcurrant is planted. I would like to improve the whole bed, and so for this, I need first to move the bush into a planter so that I can fork, add coarse grit and sow green manure in all the bed. Should I prune the bush before moving, or putting it in a planter and prune it in November. The fruit has long been gone, and the bush is about 4 years old.

11/09/2012 at 10:00

I moved 4 currant bushes back in the spring and they havent done well at all, so i'm hoping they will be better next year. I dug a big hole and tried not to disturb the roots too much and made sure they had plenty of water but had no fruit at all. Will give them a prune and im keeping my fingers crossed.

11/09/2012 at 13:23

I've moved redcurrants successfully. I left it till very late winter/very early spring just prior to them waking up. All you can do is make sure you get the whole root ball without disturbing it too much.

 

11/09/2012 at 13:48

OK. Will try to be as quiet as I can and hope that my Ben Nevis will be OK. Since it feels as late Fall up here, that may help. Grazie 1000.

11/09/2012 at 15:20

They're best moved as they go dormant up top so just after leaf fall.  That gives them all winter to get their roots re-established.  

Water the plant well an hour before you wish to dig it up an dtake as much of its root ball and soil as you can but trim off an long straggly roots that will have difficulty fitting into the pot.  Add a bit of bonemeal or root grow to the compost when filling the pot and water well then keep shelterd over the winter and don't let the pot freeze as this will kille the roots and thus the plant.

Dig over your bed when you can and then replant the blackcurrant with all the compost from the pot next spring.  This way you'll reduce damage to the new fibrous and hair roots it will have grown and should have decent crops.   Keep watered for the first year.

 

11/09/2012 at 15:27
I'm not sure moving this blackcurramt bush will be successful. I would,buy a new bush and take cuttings from old bush. You could be waiting for best part of next year to see if has transplanted well and then have to wait a further year, at least, for fruit. However, cut it back before you move it - to the ground - and then some of the roots. Plant bit deeper and water well. Good compost in with backfill too. If you can though why not get new bush or two?
11/09/2012 at 16:26

Or you could take cuttings and  then try moving the bush - then if it dies, at least you'll have the cuttings to replace it.

11/09/2012 at 16:51

Taking cuttings now is excellent advice but I've moved black and red currants in autumn, when dormant, and not lost any and I get nasty winters.

11/09/2012 at 17:28
As I said earlier, take cuttings anyway. I just feel that since you are making a new bed it would be good to put in new bushes at the same time. Enrich soil and mulch all together. I have wasted so much time transplanting like this only to have to replant later. New bushes aren't expensive and I would put in couple of newer varieties as well. 4 year old blackcurramt bushes are middle aged and will become old with the move.
12/09/2012 at 08:29

Actually, no one has questioned why you want to improve the bed in the first place. Is the blackcurrant doing well? Because if it is, there's probably no need to "improve" its immediate surroundings, and if it's not, it might be as well to replace it anyway, as it may be the bush rather than the soil that's failing.

If the bush is in good heart, you could still improve other parts of the bed in the way you suggest, and just give the blackcurrant a good mulch of compost instead of the green manure.

12/09/2012 at 09:13

thanks all of you for your advice!! I want to improve the bed because the soil dates back from before my arrival and it is very heavy clay. With the "Summer" we had, it often got waterlogged and all except fruit bushes managed to survive. But even they didn't bear much fruit if any at all. So, I want to improve by adding garden compost, coarse grit and sow green manure so to improve it even more. I'll take a few cuttings of my Ben Nevis (good idea! cheers for that!!) and keep fingers crossed for getting an allotment plot for expanding my fruity-veggy wishes: that bed is 4.8 x 1.2 m, and all the things planned to go into it are at risk of overcrowding, hence poor cropping (Bob Flowerdew's "Organic Bible" dixit, £4.99 at "The Works"). Patience...

12/09/2012 at 16:05

Hiya nadiamaz,

 

If it's any consolation the much beloved's dad and a few of his chums all had a really low yield on there blackcurrent bushes this year, we've put it down to the weather..... no blackcurrent jam on my toast this year for me I'm afraid! boo hiss!

12/09/2012 at 18:07
I had some blackcurramts, no gooseberries but loads blueberries
14/09/2012 at 08:52

I had a decent crop of blackcurrants but fewer than last year. Loads of rasps and gooseberries (this is in Devon where we get more rain and less heat than further east), but no quinces and very few crab apples or figs.

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