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13/05/2013 at 23:49

Has anyone any experience of using seer rock dust to increase yield and nutritive properties of veg.? I have very sandy soil in part of my veg patch and it is very hungry. Nutrients drain out of it quickly, even with masses of organic FYM and mushroom compost. Last summers rain probably hasn't helped.

The Seer web site is very impressive but then advertising always is.

14/05/2013 at 00:04

It does look good, but surely if you have sandy soil you'd be better off not putting more dust in there!

Maybe dig it in with yet more of the FYM, to try to hold some moisture in (assuming we have a better summer than last year).

15/05/2013 at 11:23

Yeah, I looked into this last year for making my raised beds organic. The cost of the bags online was quite a bit. It can be found in B&Q under their Verve range, comes in 10kg bags, has SEER on back and works out cheaper! You don't have to add huge quantities, and it is supposed to last 3-5 years. I have to say it's not done any of my bulbs or garlic any harm at all. It seems about same price as inorganic and I will use the same way, apply a handful after each crop.

Regards to the sandy soil, get as much organic matter in there you can, then keep top dressing every year with home compost, soil will improve over next few years. Good luck and if you go the rock dust route, remember B&Q, I checked all over internet for it, then found B&Q stock the same stuff cheaper, and if you are over 60 they do a 10% discount day every week too.

http://www.diy.com/nav/garden/garden-care-watering/compost-sand-bark/specialist_compost/Verve-Volcanic-Rock-Dust-10Kg-11907558?skuId=12418264

15/05/2013 at 13:07

I gather it's not the same as fertiliser, but more for improving minerals in the soil. reommended dosage rate is 1 to 10 kg per sq metre. I will then add blood fish and bone as usual for NPK. I already use FYM by the tractorload. What I want to know is am I going to get the huge onions like in their advert. The last time I saw onions like that I was a kid being very impresses by the Robinsons stand at Southport flower show.

I used to use calcified seaweed for minerals but then it became unavailable due to someone stopping the cornish from dredging it off Falmouth. I gather it is ok for the French to dredge it up off Brittany.

15/05/2013 at 14:20

BrummieBen, that's really good to know.  Will have to try winning some B&Q vouchers now to pay for it!

Fidgetbones, the French are a law unto themselves I'm afraid.  Taken as individuals, they're great, but get a bunch of them together (especially the farmers) and they become, in my opinion, like stroppy teenagers that will throw a huge hissy fit if they don't get their way.  Sorry if I offend any francophiles, but you can keep them!

15/05/2013 at 14:47

I figure the french and germans make the EU rules and we're the only ones who follow them.  Same with the size of the fishing nets. Our fishermen get prosecuted if they don't throw fish back in (Not right sort of fish for quota), whilst spanish trawlers use undersized nets and land everything and anything.

Don't get me started on EU or it'll raoidly develop into a rant.

15/05/2013 at 17:25

Be seeing you on the Rants thread soon then!

Strangely enough, I've not actually met Anyone that would vote yes, I want to stay in Europe in a referendum (assuming we ever get the one we were promised).  They must all live darn sarf somewhere.  We are sensible up here in the wilds of Yorkshire!

15/05/2013 at 18:22
fidgetbones wrote (see)

I gather it's not the same as fertiliser, but more for improving minerals in the soil. reommended dosage rate is 1 to 10 kg per sq metre. I will then add blood fish and bone as usual for NPK. I already use FYM by the tractorload. What I want to know is am I going to get the huge onions like in their advert. The last time I saw onions like that I was a kid being very impresses by the Robinsons stand at Southport flower show.

I used to use calcified seaweed for minerals but then it became unavailable due to someone stopping the cornish from dredging it off Falmouth. I gather it is ok for the French to dredge it up off Brittany.

Mr Fidgetbones, I'm by no means an expert, but I have already figured out that growing 'giant' veg of any sort usually means growing them completely differently to the norm. Molly-coddling them, growing in barrels of sand, growing in the greenhouse etc etc. They usually taste awful too, my uncle used to grow show veg and he never ever ate them, or even used the ones with 'defects' he discarded from his show table.

I use the dust purely as a longterm slow release to supply the essential minerals that are depleted by successive crops. I'm hoping using good rotation, plenty of fym and some good quality household compost, should keep my soil in tip top condition for my fruit and veg. Also planning on making a worm farm and producing worm tea at some stage, I'm just going to have to wait and see the results over the next few years, but I shall try to keep the forum informed of my findings. Good luck in the meantime, I think the dust is probably mainly to give me peace of mind that I've covered all the bases.

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