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02/09/2013 at 06:49

06/09/2013 at 17:50

Can't compete with the italophile stuff but I'm in Derbys too and my San Marzano are doing great - gradually colouring up.

I must have bought the same seed packet as you as I also have Costoluto, Cuor di Bue and Ciliegia. Have only just starting picking and eating so I can't comment on the flavour but it must be good since it's one of only three tomatoes specified in the GQT Plant Chooser. - mine are all still quite reluctant to redden but then from my diary last year, it was October before they all ripened and finished.

06/09/2013 at 19:05

I got a bit carried away with san marzano this year my first on the allotment,grew about 30 plants! ended up with16(8 in the g/house 8 outdoors) gave the others away,i grew them cos they are best toms for italian tom sauces according to top chefs. anyway here's another pic of my first pickings cooked them today made a simple tom sauce : s m toms,onion,garlic,basil,salt,pepper a bit of sugar braised in evooil served with pasta and parmesan..bellissimo! i would like some advice for next year(italophile)about how to prepare the soil for g/house growing (not in pots) do i dig in manure/compost/chicken manure pellets or whatever ?thx in advance

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06/09/2013 at 19:11

by the way i didn't get any blossom end rot at all , just lucky i guess . i did follow italophile's advice on watering and feeding, plus it was a pretty good summer ye ?

07/09/2013 at 06:26

Congrats, mias, they're wonderful San Marzanos. Best sauce tomato you can get. They're the ones in the top quality imported Italian tinned toms. You struck it lucky avoiding any BER at all!

Growing toms in the ground - indoors or outdoors - is pretty simple. Don't overload the soil with nutrients, toms aren't big feeders. Good healthy soil will do the job.

I grow mine outdoors in the same bed every year. I just refresh the soil by digging in some top quality potting mix, some home compost, and a couple of handfuls of pelleted chook poo. That's it. The pH should be slightly on the acid side.

The big advantage of growing in the ground - even in a greenhouse - is that the roots have the room to go in search of moisture. Infrequent, very deep watering will encourage the roots down deep where, in hot weather, the soil is cooler. So it's a good idea to dig the soil down to 18" or more during preparation.

Here, where the temps sit in the high 30s and low 40s, I don't water more often than about every three days, but I water very very deeply. If your temps don't get that high, providing you water deeply, you shouldn't need to water more than once a week.

The plants will tell you when they need water. In hot weather, they will often droop during the day. That's no guide. Check them at night after the heat of the day has passed. If they've perked up again, they're fine. If they're still drooping, water deeply. Watering by need is far better than watering by rote.

Fertilise a couple of weeks after planting out, again when the first fruit sets, then a couple more times spaced out over the growing season. That's all they need.

11/09/2013 at 08:37

spoke too soon ! italophile you jinxed me

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11/09/2013 at 08:54

That's not necessarily BER, mias. BER is much more localised around the blossom end. Like so:

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