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18/03/2013 at 16:00

I sending out this message in the hope that someone maybe able to send me the right direction, before I attempt to build my own shed

Just received my application form from my parish council to erect a Tool shed on our plot but they have given very precise dimensions (Taken from the application)

The Shed shall be of the Lean to type with the dia:

Width 3'6"

Depth 4'6"

Height (Front) 6'6" (Back) 5'6"

If anyone has any ideas where to get the above online please let me know

I've been looking in local garden centers and online all day and can not find anything that matches this size, I have given the council a call to make sure that they haven't got the sizes the wrong way round or if there is any movement on the size or style (which I got a no to both)

I get the feeling they just don't want us adding sheds to our plots

18/03/2013 at 16:08

Have you looked here-it is all in cms-don't do cms

http://www.greenfingers.com/superstore/product.asp?dept_id=200406&pf_id=LS6713D

 

18/03/2013 at 16:09

Very unhelpful dimensions as sheds/tool stores tend to be 4ft, 5ft etc as you have no doubt discovered. Is there anyone else on the allotment who has what you're looking for and can tell you where they got it? Otherwise, how 'handy' do you feel?!

18/03/2013 at 16:15

Sotongeoff - I've already seen that one, thank you for finding thou

FloBear - All the other on the allotment had there sheds up before all these new rules came in so it doesn't affect them  Thinking I may have to aquire alot of pallets and find out how 'Handy' I am 

Brumbull - I get the feeling that 'they' don't want any sheds put up on the site, hence the odd sizes! 

Thanks all for your help so far thou

18/03/2013 at 16:15

I wonder how old those regs. are. They may have been drawn up a long time ago when that size was common. The PC are supposed to represent the views/wishes of the residents. It may be worth going along to a meeting with a few other allotment holders and make representations that a little flexibility is required here!

18/03/2013 at 16:18

Drawn up middle of last year (about a month before we got the plot) I thought about seeing if some of the other allotment holders would attend a meeting with me, but sadly they haven't a problem with it as it doesn't affect them  

18/03/2013 at 16:21
Brumbull wrote (see)

Yes Tom these days its somewhere to store tools and that's your LOT !! I'm afraid

I wouldn't mind Brumbull if they had given sizes that are available, I've even asked if I could put a smaller sentry shed there instead (3' x 2') and got a flat out no!

18/03/2013 at 16:25

Tomtom, whoever drew up the dimensions wants badgering until he/she kindly tells you where to obtain a shed of the precise dimensions given. Start with the chairman of the PC and get him/her to put you in contact with Mr/Ms SmallShed. Then phone and email and hassle politely until you get some help. I am a councillor in my village and I believe that we are there to represent and help the people who elected us, not to be awkward and obstructive!!!

Edit - I cannot believe the irrationality of someone who says you can't even have a smalller shed!!!!!!!!!!  I think you should go to the local press and tell them your woes. It's completely ridiculous behaviour by the PC.

18/03/2013 at 16:27

 HI ,My allotment rules are much the same as yours, in order for us to get permission to have an allotment we had to sign a contract that the plot would be only for 11 calendar months and that no permanent structure be built above 5ft and No poly tunnels or Greenhouses except small tomato grow houses /cold frames would allowed .I think the Parish council are worried that there would be a haphazard amount of jury built sheds creating an Eye-Sore

Derek 

 

18/03/2013 at 16:43
FloBear wrote (see)

Tomtom, whoever drew up the dimensions wants badgering until he/she kindly tells you where to obtain a shed of the precise dimensions given. Start with the chairman of the PC and get him/her to put you in contact with Mr/Ms SmallShed. Then phone and email and hassle politely until you get some help. I am a councillor in my village and I believe that we are there to represent and help the people who elected us, not to be awkward and obstructive!!!

Edit - I cannot believe the irrationality of someone who says you can't even have a smalller shed!!!!!!!!!!  I think you should go to the local press and tell them your woes. It's completely ridiculous behaviour by the PC.

Ah FloBear I'm not one to back down, I shall be going down to the PC on my next day off to have a chat, I'm sure they would rather I buy a well made shed then attempt to build one myself lol. Thank you for your advice, sounds like some good ideas there

clogherhead wrote (see)

 HI ,My allotment rules are much the same as yours, in order for us to get permission to have an allotment we had to sign a contract that the plot would be only for 11 calendar months and that no permanent structure be built above 5ft and No poly tunnels or Greenhouses except small tomato grow houses /cold frames would allowed .I think the Parish council are worried that there would be a haphazard amount of jury built sheds creating an Eye-Sore

Derek 

 

I get where they are coming from clogherhead, and fully understand I just think it is unfair that they will only allow the dimentions given with little flexability, esp when the sizes are not standard and would have to be custom built.

Further on it states the excate colour and product needed to preserve the shed (and there was me going to paint it all the colours of the rainbow jk lol)

18/03/2013 at 16:49

hahahahahahahaha

18/03/2013 at 17:23

Will await developments, Tomtom

18/03/2013 at 17:32

I think they're being daft.  Surely they'd rather you bought a shed that looked tidy, rather than you having a go at making one out of old pallets that looks tatty (I'm assuming your woodworking skills are as good as mine = non-existant).

I remember arguing with a lady from the council when my ME/CFS was so bad I was in a wheelchair, and being told I wasn't disabled enough for a blue parking permit.

Rules are there for the obedience of Fools and the Guidance of Wise Men - Petronius Arbiter, AD66.

18/03/2013 at 18:50

The other daft thing is they state it has to be a 'lean to' type.  You can only build a 'lean to' structure up against an existing wall or other building, as that is the definition of a 'lean to'!

18/03/2013 at 18:58

Do you think they mean a pent shed rather than an apex shed?  Some really rather dubious reasoning going on there I think.

18/03/2013 at 19:15

Yes, MMP, I'm sure that's what they mean.  However, if they insist on being picky, they should make the rules transparently clear.  How difficult would it have been for them to state 'pent roof'' instead of 'lean to'?.. 

18/03/2013 at 19:37

I wonder where they got those dimensions from. If they were meant as a maximum size, I wonder is the person who insisted on the shed being exactly that size is being officious or has misunderstood the rules him/herself? This is a stupid and unrealistic ruling as it stands.

18/03/2013 at 20:52

Really daft.  I think the rules  have been made up arbitariliy, without asking anyone with even a passing interest in gardening.  Is it worth printing off this thread and showing it to your local councillor, or going to a parish meeting with it?  I'm sure if they realise they are making a rule that's pretty daft and will lead to lots of unsightly constructions that will make it look like a shanty town instead of allotments, they will change their minds pretty quickly.

19/03/2013 at 10:11

This sounds like a Parish Council that has no idea what its role is. I can't believe that there aren't really important things to do in your village, like ensuring that public footpaths are properly maintained, leaning on houseowners who let their hedges overhang the pavement, sorting out people who leave dog-muck everywhere, etc. It sounds as though what they are doing to you is trying to make themselves look so busy that they haven't got time to deal with important and difficult things.

Why not get on the Council yourself and stir things up a bit?

19/03/2013 at 10:17

Search "UK Garden Buildings". I've used them and the quality is OK, especially if you go for the stronger floor and better roofing felt. However they're not the right size for your silly council! 

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