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02/05/2012 at 22:38

Hi all.

help help!!  i have just put in 2 garden arches in the front garden over the path to the front door.  Got them next to each other with about 2ft between them.  they are the cheap metal ladder type - easy to move and not terribly strong.  thought of creating a nice entrance to the house, and great outlook onto the green and trees we face.

but what to plant them up with?  dont fancy roses, the thorns... besides putting a climbing rose on the wall of house by the doorway. 

Like the idea of 4 different plants that compliment each other in terms of colour, would be fantastic to have 4 plants providing 4 seasons of interest.  now that would be great!  

worried about clemantis as they need cutting back each year, and i would end up with bare stark archways for half the year - poo idea.

who has any thoughts or suggestions to share?  i understand i could pland up 2 or more plants in one point, providing double interest...  but which?!!

Trish

02/05/2012 at 22:54

Are your arches in sun most of the day?

How about Jasmine for winter flowering, Honeysuckle for fragrance, clematis for colour?

02/05/2012 at 23:00

hi LeadFarmer,  they will get sun for all morning, and most of afternoon in full summer, they face North/South and sun will be over the house after midday.

honeysuckle is not my fav - never managed to get it to do anything other than produce one single flower!

so can i plant a jasmin and clematis togther on one leg do you think?

Any suggestion of kind of jasmin that is hardy.  i still cannot believe i lost my daisy bushes this winter - and it was so mild!

03/05/2012 at 05:53

I have Clematis on both our arches. By the front gate - Comtesse de Bouchard and in the back garden Etoile violette. Trachelospermum is evergreen with a gorgeous perfume but it may be too strong a grower for your arches.Clematis armandii is also evergreen but too rampant.If you didn't mind bare arches in winter Morning Glory and Cobaea scandens are wonderful for covering an arch.

Comtesse de Bouchard

http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m551/lilylouise1/morning001-1.jpg

 Etoile violette

http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m551/lilylouise1/cherries005.jpg

 Pam x

03/05/2012 at 07:27
Akebia is an unusual and very pretty climber. If we ask lilylouise very nicely, she might post a picture, now she has the knowledge.
03/05/2012 at 12:48

Here we go figrat  Good choice by the way

http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m551/lilylouise1/orchids004.jpg

03/05/2012 at 13:35

That's lovely lily louise - any more details on siting preferences?  I have a new arch in the back - quite exposed.  Is it swented and does wildlife like it?

03/05/2012 at 17:31

We have a jasmine that is supposed to be growing up an arch but it's very slow growing, and also suffers from sooty mould due to scale insects.

Clematis is good for combining with other, slower-growing plants. The fast-growing ones like Montana and Armandii don't need much cutting back but might get a bit out of hand as they are very vigorous. Of the others, the Viticella and Jackmanii varieties are very hardy and quite profuse once they get going. They do need cutting back in early spring, so they're not there all year round.

Passion flowers climb well nad stay green all year round (with luck).

Perennial sweet peas are another option but the vanish completely in the winter. You could also grow annual climbers like nasturtiums or thunbergia (Black eyed Susan) to add a bit of summer colour.

03/05/2012 at 18:46

These arches aren't going to be able to hold much weight, especially when teh wind is blowing so I would advise some of the less vigorous group 1 clematis which flower in early spring and do not need pruning except to keep them in bounds.  I'm thinking of the alpinas - definitely not the montanas - and the Atragenes like Purple Spider, Frances Rivis and Brunette.   These are not evergreen so would still be on teh arches in winter but looking a bit twiggy and dead till the new shoots form in spring.

The other alternative are the less vigorous group 3s which get pruned back to the lowest buds or even to the ground every spring so would leave the arches bare in winter but you could always cut the growth down at the end of autumn and wind some small white fairy lights round the arches for winter.   Have a look at Alba Luxurians, Betty Corning (scented), Cassis, Etoile Rose, Hagley Hybrid, Mme Julia Correvon and so on.  

This web site lets you serach for info on clematis by name, size, pruning group etc - http://www.clematis.hull.ac.uk/ 

03/05/2012 at 18:48

I think Akebias are quite robust plants - ours is on the fence by a gate which is north facing and it gets pruned regularly  to keep it in it's place so over an arch it would have more space .My son gave it to me a few years ago instead of an Easter egg - it is also called the chocolate vine and is supposed to smell of chocolate

Last year I bought Akebia 'Cream Form' - it has had a few flowers this year - much smaller than the other one but very beautiful

Pam x

03/05/2012 at 19:42

Thanx Pam - I'll look into those

And all of Obelixx's suggestions for clematis - I'm with Trish for worrying about the arch looking bare but I got a group 2 and a group 1 from GW last year (so still only small this year) and I can hardly believe the growth rate on the one I chopped to the soil in March!

So I reckon I'll plant it up the arch and leave the seed heads on and hope for some frosts to pretty it up with maybe the Akebia on the other side

03/05/2012 at 19:45

My arch is craftly tied to a line post, concreated into the ground, it was there when I moved in. Both arch and pole is now compleatly covered with honeysuckel, clematis, dorothy perkin, tiny red roses, and it is smothered aready, in only two years. I just clip everything all over in autumn and again after flowering.Plus the bird feeders hang from the top center bars, I can see all this while sitting at my kitchen table, great to look at the flowers and the birds at meal times. Pleased to say its looking great.B.x

03/05/2012 at 19:56

I can but dream of things to come  

08/05/2012 at 10:07

Maybe consider a pair of wisteria - although the lose their leaves in winter they bare plant is still attractive and can be woven around the arches.

17/05/2012 at 17:51

oh my goodness, thank you all so much for the feedback.  i totally forgot to check on here, so busy planting and saving things from wet rot with all the rain we have had.   I love the Akibea - so different.  i dont want another clemantis, got one in the back garden over an arch. i think the thing to do is multi-plant like a few of you have suggested, so i get a full show,different elements.  some spring, some summer and something with great leaves for autumn.  i saw a purple leaved vine somewhere, will have to try and trace that..  and fairy lights in winter sounds just the thing on bare branches.

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