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Hi, this is the garden of my new house, as you see what a mess! I am a keen garden goer...not so keen on the gardening! No I just don't know what I'm doing yet... Please help

view from other end... I have been told by estate agent it is a plot of around a third of an acre, looks smaller than that to me tho, it is completely open to the left side with a field so don't want to spoil the view,but have no idea what will withstand the elements, I really don't know where to start apart from getting all the bark and stones up, it seems to be clay!
Gary Hobson

My first impression was of those dark trees, on the right in the first 2 photos. Whereabouts does the sun come from. Will those trees shade your garden, or not. Are they your trees. You might need to find out how far their roots extend into the garden. They could make cultivation difficult.

If they were my trees, I'd think of having them down. But dealing with those roots could still be a big job.

Do you like the view of that shed in the distance, in the first photos. You could obstruct, or mask, the view if you want to.

Cleaning up those paving slabs shouldn't be difficult. I wonder what's under them. Hardcore? You might like to keep the path and just pretty it up.

You might be able to make use of those timbers (if they are timbers) to make a raised bed to grow veg, if you want to grow some veg.

I'm sure others will have lots of ideas...

Alina W

I wouldn't rush to get rid of the trees - in such an open site they add height, structure and possibly provide some shelter from the wind.

Instead, think about what you want in the garden, e.g., types of shrub, bulb plantings, areas of perennials.

Then try planning it around what is already there - that will show you what might be best moved or altered. Work on paper first, though - much better to have a plan before you start stripping things away and find yourself with nothing more than mud to look at.


The garden looks quite long. You could put trellis up to separate it into less daunting areas eg patio area near the house, veg. garden from what looks like raised beds already there and shade garden under the trees at the end. It's hard to tell where the house is. Is it the brick building behind what looks like sheds and, perhaps, a greenhouse? Or is it behind what looks like a stone patio in the last photo?

I think the path looks quite nice and it looks as though someone (you or previous owner was making it and hasn't finished yet.You need to have something to the sides of it because a path going up the middle of the garden makes it look thinner and longer, but it's good that it's not straight. It needs some tidying up, weeding or weed killer and the wooden posts finishing and some more gravel.

If you put up trellis to separate the veg bit you could make a bed with flowers and climbers like clematis and honeysuckle up the trellis.

Anyway, on cold winter days you can enjoy studying the internet and gardening books for ideas.



I forgot to mention the clay soil. Work in whatever you can get, well rotted manure (beg from local stables, farmer?) compost (does your local council have a cheap compost place), leaf mould. Clay is usually fertile, roses are OK with it, but it's difficult to manage for the gardener and difficult for some plants to get their roots through. It can waterlog in the rain and bake hard in the summer. I had it when we lived in the Weald of Kent.


Typical mistake in having the path going right down the middle of the plot.

Still, what you need to ask yourself is what you really want in your outdoor space, before doing anything to it. Make a list of things first, then see if you can fit them in and where.


You could split into 3 sections, formal patio with pots and borders (be carefull with decking as it can get quite slippy with algae), then more structured garden area with curved lawns and cottage garden borders, finally a more natural wild garden at the back. I agree with Berghill about the path down the middle its really not effective. These are ideas and I cant say this is right for your space, thats for you to decide but it will cut down the ammount of work you have to do. Also you might have to check with your local council that those trees dont have a Tree Preservation Order on them, particularly if you are in a conservation area. You DON'T want to be landed with a £20,000 fine (some carry a fine of £2500 just for cutting back without planning permission.


Hi all, you can't see the house from the garden and vice versa, I have a tiny cottage and the garden is a dog leg at the back and runs along a farmers field, the shed you can see on the top pic is the farmers shed, that is the end of my garden and there are pigs in the field directly at the end. where the big trees are is the farmers field and they do give shade, but my dogs need as much shade as they can get in the summer so I'm keeping them, I have had them trimmed back and even tho I would prefer prettier trees if I had the choice I have work with what I have.along the left in the top pic are the neighbours hedges,I think I need to make the garden more interesting than just the straight path that is there now, but I don't know what to do instead? I also have a sewer pipe that runs diagonally across the whole plot...great!... What would you suggest as hedging plants that would be less intrusive roots? If I want to have some snazzier lines I need to know what to use?

to create some easy ground cover under the trees, hostas and ferns do vers well in shaded areas. You need to know where the shade falls during the day (what direction does your garden face? south etc) you dont want to go to the expense of putting in alot of plants that wont grow because they arent getting enough light. You can talk to neighbours to see what does well in their gardens maybe even take cuttings (especially if they are cutting back anyway). Yours is an end plot so have a bonus of extra light from the side. (how deep is the sewer pipe?)


Wow! what a good size this is and this could be a really nice Garden, I would take your time thinking about the design but like Gary said I think that those trees could do with coming down first.


How are you doing BL? Nice to see you here.


Hello Gray. Is BL me? I'm fairly new to this forum, but I've bought GW magazine for years. I think it's going to get a bit addictive! I've been gardening for 40 years, gosh time flies!


Back to Duchess. If you don't like the path and you are willing to do the work, then take it up and any other bits and pieces you don't want. Then you would have a lovely blank canvas. I only suggested keeping it because in your first post you said you weren't keen on gardening, but you like visiting gardens! Ask for some really good books on garden design for Christmas, write down what you would like and what you don't like. Think of what you would like that you've seen in gardens you've visited that would work in your garden. However, I would keep the trees for all the reasons that you and others have said.

Do you have to have anything deep rooted over the sewer pipe? Could you have lawn over some of it? If you must have a hedge over it choose smallish shrubs like Spirea Anthony Waterer or Spirea Goldflame. The first thing is to plan the design then the planting.


Yes it was Busy-Lizzie, sorry about that - are you the same BL that was on


Thanks for all your thoughts, the pipe is only about six inches under the surface and I know I will have to go over it at some point so I'm abit concerned about that. I bought the house (because I fell in love with it) but also I wanted to be able to have an amazing garden... I just don't know how yet but am willing to work hard and learn as much as I can I'm thinking hedging already because I'd rather a living boundary so that's where I'm starting my ideas for what I want and where, but with the pipe issue I didn't know what I could use, I shall have a look at your suggestions thanks busy lizzie!

Must have been a different BL on GardenersClick.

Oh ha ha... Your garden is lovely btw.....

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