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03/06/2013 at 18:46

Please,does anyone know how quickly the Sambucus nigra "Black Lace"  grows in a year? Bought it from Garden centre yesterday, 30cm tall. Want to plant it in front garden lawn but looks so tiny. How much is it likely to increase in height this summer? We live in the Moray coast. Is it best to leave it in pot for this year or plant it out? If anyone can help, I'd appreciate it.Thank you.

03/06/2013 at 18:53

They grow pretty quickly and I think it would prefer to be planted, unless it's somewhere like in a lawn and risks getting mown over!

03/06/2013 at 19:00

Thank you. Would you advise putting bark round it so it stands out a bit just incase! Also, will this variety stand up ok to the north winds?

03/06/2013 at 19:07

It needs bare soil around it - don't let lawn grow up to it's trunk - I would cut a circle about  3ft diameter in the lawn and plant the sambuccus in the centre - then you can mulch it with bark if you like.

03/06/2013 at 19:16

Mine is on the North side of my house, but it has sun half the day. Here's mine.

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/24715.jpg?width=277&height=350&mode=max

 May 2012, hasn't flowered yet this year as it's been so cold and wet, only buds so far.

03/06/2013 at 19:30

That's splendid. I've just been given one of these and I've potted it on with a view to planting in the autum unless we get a very wet spell. The soil it's going into isn't workable onece it starts to dry out.

When I potted it on I tipped it upside down onto my hand and there was a great crested newt in the bottom.

03/06/2013 at 19:37

i would pot it on into john innis number 3 in a decent size pot.  water it enough for it not to dry out.  then plant it out in the autumn.  it should be at least 3 times its current size by then.  it will look so silly at the moment in the middle of your lawn. next year it will be 4 or 5 feet tall and a width to match

03/06/2013 at 19:45

I'd agree with Verdun Lisa and put it in a bigger pot for now. The north of Scotland is not renowned for it's balmy climate! Those north winds are very unforgiving. I'm a good bit further south than you and on the west side and even here I'd give it a chance to grow on a bit unless it was going into a sheltered site. 

Nut- you and these newts 

03/06/2013 at 20:08

That's great, thanks everyone for your advice. Yes, I did think it would get lost in the middle of the lawn, especially if we get a wet spell and can't get the grass cut! Also pleased to hear it should be fairly quick growing. The flowers look spectacular, but would it maybe be a year or two before we would expect it to flower? Hope there are no crested newts in mine!! Good tip about the mulch too.

04/06/2013 at 11:29

Mine lives in a pot and has done for the 5 years I have had it.  It does very well - I keep thinking I will make pale pink elderflower cordial, but it seems such a shame to pick off its flowers - and by the time I think I will, it is too late!!  Lovely thing, the baby leaves are quite an incredible black against the greyish wood.  

04/06/2013 at 12:39

am I the only one not wanting the flowers on my elders?  its the foliage I want..the new coloured bushy foliage...so I cut hard back every March

04/06/2013 at 12:49

As I do with my fig, I want the huge leaves and am not bothered by the fruit at all - each to there own thank goodness. 

04/06/2013 at 12:54

I love the contrast of the foliage to the flowers on Black Lace though Verdun. I do grow Sutherland Gold for it's foilage alone though.

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