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23/06/2013 at 13:35


A rose i planted last year has started to flower for the first time for me.

I think its a Hybrid T. It stands about 6 feet tall with a 4 foot stem and around 2 feet square of lovely foliage and now flowers.

The first 5 flowers have been large bright pink and white and very beautiful, however its got loads and loads of small fat buds that are now flowering and they are completly different. Small and delicate and very pale pink....

Is this the 2 Roses in the hybrid. I thought that the root rose in a hybrid would only produce Suckers. I always pull what i think are suckers ((no of leaves and where they grow)) as they drain the plant but if this is what can happen i might start leaving them.

2 Roses in 1!!!!

23/06/2013 at 13:59

The single ones are dog rose type , arising from a sucker from the rootstock. These will flower if left, but are best removed by ripping  the shoot off as low as possible.

23/06/2013 at 14:03

But they look realy nice...

23/06/2013 at 14:13

Can you put a picture up Rich?

23/06/2013 at 14:13

You mention a four foot stem - is this a standard rose?  If so are the pale pink roses coming from growth at the top of the stem or the bottom?

23/06/2013 at 14:37

Ill post a pic...

23/06/2013 at 14:49


23/06/2013 at 14:52


23/06/2013 at 15:00

Hard to tell from pic Rich, are the smaller single roses coming from the base of the plant (suckers)?  Do they have different leaf pattern to the bigger rose shoots?  If yes, I'd say they are suckers, nice as they are....

23/06/2013 at 16:13

It's all a bit of a jumble, but yes, those smaller single pink roses look like dog roses (rosa canina) or one of the other briar types.  They're either coming from the rootstock, or they've grown from a seed dropped by a bird.  Can't really see what's going on - is the rose bush planted in that narrow bed with the log in front of it?  It's hard to see any stems and the picture won't enlarge.  

You need to trace the stems back from the wild-type flowers and see where it's coming from and take it out.  If it's on it's own roots then just dig it out.  If it's coming from the roots of the other rose (eg, a sucker) then you need to scrape the soil away until you can see the join, and then pull the sucker down so that it comes away from the root taking the growing point with it rather than just snap it off.

23/06/2013 at 16:42


23/06/2013 at 16:44

so you think the small flowers are the Suckers?

I thought a Sucker would come from below the wanted stem. this pic shows it doesnt.

23/06/2013 at 16:47


23/06/2013 at 16:52


23/06/2013 at 16:53

The lower richt hand stem leads to a few large flowers.

The left hand stem leads to many small buds and flowers

23/06/2013 at 17:07

OK, so it's not a sucker then. 

  You say you bought it as a Hybrid Tea rose, but there is only one stem from the roots - could it be a standard instead - with the big flowered rose grafted at the top of the stem and the smaller one is either another type of rose grafted on, or it's been grafted wrongly and the rootstock is flowering too?

It really is a puzzle - can you remember where you bought it from?

23/06/2013 at 17:34

Im no expert and it could be a Standard Tea.

I know the chap i got it from but he's a busy man and as i got it from a year ago he wont remember it. I did get it for about £10 as nobody else wanted it but as a novice it seemed a good price for the size and i have 2 more the same that are excellent.


23/06/2013 at 19:03

Pull it out it looks a bit rough if you know what i mean Start with something new with a nice label that tells you what it is.BYE

23/06/2013 at 19:10

If you like it, keep it. It`s your garden after all and try not to listen to those unhelpful "experts"  ^^  

23/06/2013 at 19:11

Im not pulling it out!!!!

I like it.

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