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11/02/2013 at 12:40
Always mix myself with to prune or not to prune, I have noticed new growth on old stems, should this one be cut back now or wait...or not at all? Same with Montana large purple flowers , flowing summer to late ? Would it be worth trying some nelly moser cuttings now I wonder also ? I had thought of moving to a pot as now hidden , but read not to Thanks for help advice you can offer .
11/02/2013 at 13:06

bunny look on Taylors clematis site

http://www.taylorsclematis.co.uk/

they give details of how to prune. I think with Nelly Moser she is a Group 2 so is cut back to about 1m. But check

11/02/2013 at 13:22
Great site thanks, I've saved it so will leave my hacking until I have checked.
11/02/2013 at 13:29

Montana is a spring flowering clematis which you can prune after flowering finishes to keep it in bounds and/or renew vigour.   Nelly Moser is a group 2 so you prune afet the first flush of flowers in May/June.  remove some or all of the dead heads and prune back any stems taht are hetting too long.  You can also take out a main stem or two from the base to renew vigour and encourage flowering lower down.

Give both a good feed after pruning and also from spring to flowering end.  Nelly Moser will produce a second flush of flowers in late summer if she's happy and well fed.   This website will help you identify your clematis and gives info on pruning and cultivation care - http://www.clematis.hull.ac.uk/ 

11/02/2013 at 13:41

This was a question about Nelly Moser cuttings, too, wasn't it? You root softwood cuttings in spring, semi-ripe cuttings in autumn. Personally, I have NEVER succeeded with softwood cuttings, only semi-ripe ones. however, I have read that the main reason for this is heat inside the plastic bag I put over the pots when I have taken the cuttings, so maybe I'll have another go this year, making sure I keep them cool. I have also read of someone rooting Nelly Moser in water, though apparently this took quite a few weeks.

11/02/2013 at 15:07

with clematis you need to have to layer them to succeed ,or by seed,My friend did so successfully but not me.Nellie likes to be cut back about the end of Feb and again after flowering in summer(if stops raining) be careful not to cut back to far and if its a new plant wait until it is settled.I hear they have brought out a trailing small clematis for hanging baskets ,looks good.

11/02/2013 at 15:33
Thanks all, I've had it couple of years but is hidden by a bamboo that's why I thought of moving it to a large pot to give it some better attention. Didn't do much last year I thought maybe due to lack of sun and so much rain on my clay soil.
I shall try cuttings later , nothing to lose.

The trailing one sounds lovely .
11/02/2013 at 17:05

Integrifolia varieties trail nicely as they are non clinging and often quite small.   I have alba and rosea which get to about 3'/1m each year in the ground.  They'd need regular feeding and watering to do well in a basket and it would need to be fairly deep for their roots.  I grew some in a long conical basket a few years ago but then moved them to a bed.

Species clematis can be grown from seed but for named cultivars you need to do cuttings or cultivars.  I found this which explains how better than I could -

Some species start well from cuttings; others do not. The vining types, especially cultivars, are usually started from cuttings or layering. Cuttings should be taken from healthy semi-mature stems of the current year’s wood. Each cutting should have one pair of leaves. The lower end of the cutting can be treated with a rooting hormone and then placed in a medium such as perlite, peat, sand, or a mix of these. Cover the cuttings and containers with plastic to maintain high humidity, then place them in bright light but not direct sun. Once rooted, plants can be potted individually and later placed in the garden.

Many clematis can be propagated by layering (Figure 14). Select 1-year-old stems with good buds. Cut a 1-inch slit in the stem. Pin the stem to the soil in a container or on the ground with a wire. Cover the slit stem with soil and keep moist. Sever the stem when it has developed roots at the slit, gently dig up the rooted stem, and move it to the intended site.

It was on this website - http://www.ianrpubs.unl.edu/epublic/pages/publicationD.jsp?publicationId=1027

The RHS offers this advice on cultivating and propagating clematis - http://apps.rhs.org.uk/advicesearch/profile.aspx?pid=97 

11/02/2013 at 17:36

The trouble with growing from seed is that they take years to flower. Also, they don't come true to the parent plant. I agree that layering is the easiest option. According to the Garden Action website, the following clematis are easy to grow from cuttings -  alpinas, montanas, armandii, texensis, tangutica  Bill McKenzie, tibetana. Moderately easy are macropetalas, viticellas,large-flowered hybrids. There is more good info on there about propagating clematis.

11/02/2013 at 19:06

Nothing beats growing your own new clematis from seed, I have registered several new varieties, the latest being a new pink herbaceous called Carol Klein, with Carol's approval I hasten to add, not yet available to purchase.

To genuine enthusiasts I have plenty of spare seed, free, and will show you how to germinate them rapidly,

E-mail me if genuinely interested, see website www.hawthornes-nursery.co.uk

Details of the new Carol Klein can be found on Clematis on the Web A to Z

11/02/2013 at 22:14

Well, I love a good browse through a clematis website but I can't open that one from here or via google.

11/02/2013 at 23:03

It opened for me on my laptop. Lots of lovely photos of their garden. I don't prune Nelly Moser every year, but when she gets a bit big or messy or the tips of stems have died off in winter I trim off the tips to healthy buds around March.

11/02/2013 at 23:13
Mine is only small, what do you think of moving to a large pot ? It isn't getting the sun and is hidden by a bamboo at the moment
11/02/2013 at 23:29

Mine is in a large pot, moved her there when she was young, some years ago and she's flowered reliably ever since.

12/02/2013 at 07:38
Richard Hodson wrote (see)

Nothing beats growing your own new clematis from seed, I have registered several new varieties, the latest being a new pink herbaceous called Carol Klein, with Carol's approval I hasten to add, not yet available to purchase.

To genuine enthusiasts I have plenty of spare seed, free, and will show you how to germinate them rapidly,

E-mail me if genuinely interested, see website www.hawthornes-nursery.co.uk

Details of the new Carol Klein can be found on Clematis on the Web A to Z

There speaks a true clematis enthusiast! It certainly is fascinating to think of finding new clematis, though I suppose good new ones are fairly rare. I'll be logging onto your website!

12/02/2013 at 07:50
Thanks busy , mine hasn't done much , last year I don't recall a flower ,year before full of flowers . I will be adding a section to the bed where it is for a swing seat area so good excuse to move . Now , when to move ...wait until all the frosts are over?
12/02/2013 at 15:50

Doesn' matter too much if it is from a smaller pot in to a larger one.From the ground, it depends if you can get on the soil and work it. Since there will be root disturbance, it would be good to do it before it starts into growth, using the microrhizal fungi sold for rose planting and mixing in some clematis fertiliser.Are you planning to use a soil-based planting medium?

12/02/2013 at 16:29

I have a nelly M too, north facing and it's currently shooting everywhere.

I've heard the 'Before June, do not prune" rule, so Nelly M which flowers after June does need pruning.

Someone (I forget who) also suggested remembering when to prune it, calling it the Valentine's day massacre (ie, cutting back to just by the first green shoot) on Feb 14th - made me laugh at the time, but at least I remember it now!

12/02/2013 at 17:00

Between now and the end of March, Nelly and other group 2s need to have all dead growth cut back to a pair of healthy buds to remove unsightly stems.    After the first flowers they need trimming to remove some dead heads and induce the plant to put on more flowers in late summer.    Simples.

12/02/2013 at 18:47
Thank you for all your advice, due snow tomorrow and sun after that so I shall move it then.
Grandma I was going to ask at local GC what best to use in pot as I would be buying there along with new pot (excuse to go now) , I thought compost but you may advise me otherwise ?
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