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03/07/2013 at 08:18

I find growing roses from seed pretty easy. I only grow species type, and they go in the old orchard belonging next door(with their permission)  the Rosa filipes is already flowering 40 ft up a seedling cherry tree. One of the seedlings flowers a week later, I took some hardwood cuttings, it is growing over a hawthorn, as high as the house. This one is slightly different, it has pink buds, and slightly larger flowers, and a trunk as thick as my arm.

03/07/2013 at 08:23

Hi. That Rose with the red and white flrs.

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/26626.jpg?width=424&height=350&mode=max

 

03/07/2013 at 08:28

Hi Salino - all. Yer tis - as I said somehow I must have put a white and a red in the same pot. Forgot to say thanks for the info ref sending from Picasa.I gave it a go but as always I am happier with a handfork than a PC and made a complete hash of it. I did try however sending the pics from Picasa (which I upload to always) to My Pictures and find I can send them direct OK from there -  as the help line said from the PC they are auto resized.

03/07/2013 at 08:57

hi Keeny... pleased to hear you got the photos sorted out... send as many as you want, that's what we all do... on various threads...   I grew Rugosa's back in the 1980's so a long time ago, and if I recall I thought I had both pink and white flowers on the same plants too... are yours very prickly..? they always are if rugosa's... apparently they're pretty easy to grow from seed, so probably the best ones to choose for that respect giving quite variable plants... wonderful to do though isn't it..?

...and I do love the fresh green foliage on these shrubs....  I don't have the space in my smallish borders for these, but if I had a wilder area would certainly have one or two...

..Hosta 'Frances Williams' I also grew back in the 1980's... it was the first Hosta I bought... and very nice too... these days so many to choose from... I dare not put in the ground.. would get demolished overnight...

...I also love the look of that tree in the background there... a Rowan of some sort..? a real shapely specimen, I do like that very much...

 

03/07/2013 at 09:05
fidgetbones wrote (see)

Salino, those hosta flowers look like regal lilies.

 

hi fidgetbones.... nice to talk to you...

well... I never thought of that, but now you say, yes they do... bit smaller though... but I do love the freshness of these flowers especially on a dull day...

I note you've been growing roses from seeds too with success... and you have Rosa filipes too... oh my goodness... how big is your acreage...?  hope you can show us some photos in due course...but that's up to you, sometimes our homes are just very private...

...I grew the rampant 'Paul's Himalayan Musk'  up a large willow tree when I lived in Cornwall, it was on a river bank where it quickly grew through it and cascaded downwards towards the stream... oh my... it was a joy to behold that one, in June.... short season.... I also grew a rambler up a Hawthorn tree, my choice for this was 'Francois Juranville'... a nice scented frilly pink one....with a mass display in June...like they all do...

03/07/2013 at 09:12

...Keeny... I note you got a sport from one of your Hosta's... how marvellous is that..? I wonder if it's one that's already on the market as some named variety...?

I also lament the lack of Thrushes in our gardens..my very favourite song bird.. we still have a few around here. it's quite rural where I am and hear one or two in the trees and hedgerows... I miss them so very much and I only have one good ear [deaf in the other]... but the thought of not hearing them at all would be just dreadful...either way..

...I do have a pheasant in a neighbouring field that has made himself at home... quite a sound they make, not one of my favourites in this direction...

...please show us some more photos of your hosta's if you can...

03/07/2013 at 09:16

Acreage, I wish.

My back garden is 225 ft long. 40 ft wide at widest point, tapering to 18ft. My OH sold his house(which he was never in ) and invested in buying the house next door. Similar garden for me to play with, now with a lodger in the house.

Next door other side  has 5 acres, with a prewar orchard allowed to run wild, running up the length of my garden. After we cleared the debris after a bad storm some years ago, it had a lot of gaps. I got permission to plant in those, so long as it didn't cost any money. I planted things grown from seed, and buddeljas from cuttings, to create an undisturbed wildlife sanctuary. The fox family live in there, and it gives cover and food for a lot of birds. The wildlife have most of the fruit and berries. I get a "borrowed" landscape. Apart from the traffic noise, you would think we were in the countryside. (I am less than a mile as the crow flies from junction 25 M1)

03/07/2013 at 09:20

Hi Salino - bluejan - all.       bluejan - ref the request for Hosta pics I have just been out and taken some and would like to send individual pics but t'would take ages so will send them in groups as they are growing  will send today.       Salino.   Ref the Roses their foliage is a lovely fresh green as you said and also they are very very prickly. That tree in the backround is a Rowan, always been a great favourite of mine,  all those lovely berries to see and for the birds in Autumn. I have planted that myself since living here (near 3 yrs) along with a grey(ish) foliaged Malus, a fastigiate Hornbeam ( another favouirite) but above all my very best favourites a couple of Amelanchiers. A tree for every garden I think, good all round and lots to offer.. I find Hostas can be vary variable depending on where they are planted, two of the same plant can look a lot different  - I like to give them the shade they really need but grow more of mine in sun and they seem to love it. Just as a thought and thinking of your comment ref  Clematis wilt  I have to say I have never been overly successful with them either other than montana and montana rubens. What i did read though (and thats as far as it goes) in older books, maybe still the same, that ref that wilt if when you plant a new one to plant it two or three inches deeper and then if it did wilt it might come along again. Cannot in any way vouch for that, mer;ly that I read it - you might care to look it up yourself. Finally you asked about  that small yellow plant on the right in the pic of the Antholiza I sent  -  it is a very healthy clump of gold Marjoram - super plant - super scent when crushed between fingers - as we do with these aromatic plants. Best wishes to all.

03/07/2013 at 09:34

Hi fidgetbones. Your wildlife garden sounds wonderful. I have a narrowish strip next to me which I am allowed to garden, have planted trees and shrubs on it along with suitable "woodsy" plants to go with them  including as many "wildies" as poss, Foxgloves, evening Primrose right down to Bugle. It is  on the woods side only bounded by a 3 feet fence and the Deer jump that without a snort - nice things to eat (my plants) on the other side. Cannot fight it and so apart from a few plants just the trees and shrubs remain but as stated it still is nice. Wildlifewise a goodly variety of birds (and yet nowhere near as many as when living nearer Town), Deer, Squirrels and have seen smaller things, Grass Snake, Frogs, Toads etc. Have 4 good sized Buddleia bushes which are a magnet for the Butterflies and bees + later.

03/07/2013 at 09:47

Hi Salino - all. Its surprising that plants do often just throw these sports and they can be saved, lots of the variegateds on the market today arrived in this fashion I imagine. It seems to happen more on shrubs, variegations appearing on green  but also of course the variegated plants reverting back to green. I did once years ago see a lovely clump of variegated with yellow Stinging Nettle and also Docks. I keep my eyes wide open all the time looking for these things and the unusual seedlings which appear in the garden - no forks or hoes allowed in mine - just a handfork.  Have to go now on the "dreaded" shopping trip but hope to see you all later. Regards.

03/07/2013 at 11:04

fidgetbones....never mind the M1, can't do much about that, but your garden does sound quite vast to me... compared with my own little plot... how wonderful to have that borrowed landscape too... I don't have that where I am... I'm not sure I could cope with much larger today...as we get older you know..? ...you must get endless pleasure watching the wildlife..I think I would... if you have the time of course... we don't always do so...

 

03/07/2013 at 11:16

Keeny,,.... yeah, Clematis wilt, I've tried planting deep and didn't make much difference, snails got whatever surfaced...but thanks very much for your help and information there... 

I have one or two successes so all is not lost, and I grow viticella's now and they don't have the problems so much... I've got 4 of those growing...they're much easier, less temperamental... I haven't got time to be fussy...

I've grown 3 rowans in my time,... 'Vilmorinii'...'Cashmiriana'.. and I think my favourite 'Joseph Rock'... that is just gorgeous in autumn with it's yellow berries and autumn colour... but it's so fleeting that isn't it..? I wish it lasted a month...

'Cashmiriana' has lovely foliage, very early into leaf in Spring but loses it fast too, all gone by mid September...white berries, soon demolished by birds...

I also had Amelanchier 'Ballerina' in my garden in Cornwall, that was another real beauty... quite tall, I grew it as a small tree, not a shrub...  another tree that I adore, if kept in check and that's a vital requirement with this, is Eucalpytus gunnii, or another called Niphophila,... don't know if you've heard of these...?  the first one needs 6 foot cutting off the top each Spring......need the right tool for that, or be a 'right tool' for growing it in the first place...lol... but it is lovely though.. well, I think so...

love the sound of your trees, never grown Hornbeam, nor Malus I don't think.. can't recall, but lots of lovely varieties to be had there... oh yes I grew 'Floribunda' that gorgeous pink one,... always caught the eye of everyone...a very pretty flowerer...

...aah..Marjoram... I should have know. I've got some myself but it's in a trough and mine is more prostrate...love the smell, I also have Rosemary, Chives, Mint and Oregano... these form my stock herbs for cooking..

happy shopping... if you're going to Sainsbury's make sure you're not on a mobile phone at the checkout....

 

 

03/07/2013 at 18:21

Hi Salino.  Gotta be a kwickie this - just back from the dreaded shopping - necessary I know but honestly I would sooner do a 10 mile "outing" in the desert than this. Anyway  I would like to thank your goodself and all the other super  folk on Site who have made me feel so very welcome. and have endured my comments - theres much more I can tell you if you wish including those failure plants including the marvel ( to me) of the retirn pof the Haquetia, Madonna Lilies, tiny Gunnera, the Ostrowskia, variegated Brunnera , Monarda ( believe it or not - so much for skill on my part). So much to tell and do so love to converse with like minded folk. Theres also those Frog stories which are very interesting and should I think be heeded in particular by our good friends Fairygirl and Verdun - life can be very hard being a Frog. See you all tomorrow and thanks so much again. Regards.

03/07/2013 at 18:34

Keen....not a frog.  Rivet, rivet.river...

Hey like your style though

 clearly a passionate plantsperson

03/07/2013 at 22:21

..that's quite alright Mr Keen... nice talking to you and hearing about your lovely garden... I think it's time I let you circulate a bit and talk to some others along the way, enough of my nattering...

we're execting 30 degrees heat by Sunday... time to put away the gardening and find a shady spot with a Mr Whippy...

meanwhile, here are some of my roses, just looking their best.... I had to buy these Mr Keen...... all the best for now,.... Margaret....

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-IWrPZr0gzEY/UdSSU748haI/AAAAAAAAA5s/2Xo1dmgfczM/s800/DSC01270.JPG

 

04/07/2013 at 07:59

Hi Salino. Your Roses are great and tell pse am I correct in thinking that pink ones always bloom a lot more than other collours ( good as they mat be doing). One of my Amalanchiers is "Ballerina" and the other grandflorum I think - will check that - have only planted them this year and am training them to a single stemmed standard as yours. RTef the Eucalyptus I have to say I like the foliage and was once tempted to put a gunnii into a large container but thought better of it. As a matter of interest I always have kept a sharp eye open for self sown seedlings in the garden and this includes those of forest trees.. I grow them a to say a foot tall and wire their stems into an ointeresting shape ( perhaps a spiral and increase their pot size to say max 9 inch and leave them at that - they do become rootbound but keep going. Had several at last address but new owner liked them so I presented him with them. here at present I have an Ash, Oak both small as yet but also a 4 feet tall Birch - this I have left the stem straight- lovely trees.

04/07/2013 at 08:18

Hi all. Before the plant failures etc heres the Frog stories - both true these and others may have seen what I saw.  Setting the scene  - I was sitting outdoors on a summer evening with the house lights on behind me and shining halfway down the garden  and also onto a concrete tub ( about  20 in square) in which I had planted a Tree of Heaven ( Ailanthus?)  because I liked its foliage. All around this tub was growing one of the smaller Dicentras, formosa I think and these had spread completely around it. I could see Moth activity  round this, obviously attracted by the blooms but I could also see other movements. When I looked I found there was 3 or 4 quite largeish Frogs on top of the tub and as the Moths arrived and settled on a bloom these Frogs were leaping out (10-12 inches) and grabbing them - tumbling down to the ground - presumably eating their prey and then scrambling back up the plants onto the tub again to repeat the process. They were having a real feast as the Moths kept coming along. It was interestting to see that as a Moth arrived they were shuffling round into line  and taking aim with them before leaping. The second was when I had a small water feature tub of water ( approx 60 ltrs)  with oxygenating and other plants in it standing on paving next to a planted area, these plants coming up to the same height or higher than the tub. I was able to watch Frogs scrambling up the plants to get into the water  - did not realise they were that agile and actually could clasp and climb plants. PS. Verdun. Watch it my friend what you say to Fairygirl or this could be your fate. Best wishes to all.

04/07/2013 at 08:21

Hi all. Will get to the plants part a little later - have a little work to do as gas Engineer here this morning on service call.

04/07/2013 at 08:34

Morning keen

Nice post.  

Thanks for warning about Fairygirl.   She doesnt scare me....not at all.   ......erm!  I think Fairygirl is a very nice person, kindness  personified in fact.  Fffffffffantastic fffffairy

04/07/2013 at 09:05

Hello Keen. I've just found this post as I've just come back from visiting England and gardens, on holiday. I have a garden a bit over an acre in France (Dordogne) which I'm trying to do English style, but there are more extremes of weather here and the soil was limestone with clay pockets.

This thread seems to have got very long very quickly, it's taken some time to read and there are old friends from other threads on it.

If anyone would like to see the gardens I saw they are on this thread http://www.gardenersworld.com/forum/talkback/gardens-we-have-visited-2013/80843.html   Some of you will have seen it already. I bought a lovely book at Great Dixter called "Dear Friend & Gardener with correspondence between Beth Chatto and Christopher Lloyd.

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