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22/09/2013 at 12:46

 Has anyone got any ideas as to what this is?

I bought it about 3 years ago as Clerodendrum bungei but it soon became clear that it wasn't. The leaves are quite leathery, it has never flowered and is growing well in my chalky soil.

22/09/2013 at 15:27


22/09/2013 at 15:44

I vote for hazel too in which case it might cause problems being so close to the fence. If you want to keep it for the foliage you will have to coppice it every 2/3 years.

22/09/2013 at 16:42

not hazel, the leaves are wrong and the leaf stalks too long.. Hazel is a much coarser loking shrub.

22/09/2013 at 17:15

Looks a lot  like Hornbeam.

22/09/2013 at 19:01

Thankyou all but it is not a hazel or a hornbeam.

22/09/2013 at 20:04

I don't know Viburnum dentatum but did wonder about one of the viburnums

22/09/2013 at 22:34

Definitely not Hazel or  Hornbeam.

All Viburnum have opposite leaves... so that rules that out.

I believe it is a Corylopsis. Possibly one such as Corylopsis spicata.

Wait a bit longer .. it should develop pale yellow flowers in the spring.

22/09/2013 at 22:50

that sounds nice, but perhaps not if you wanted the clerodendrum.

my C. trichotomum is having a good year, building up for a great fruiting

23/09/2013 at 06:54

I agree with Nutcutlet, I have had one for 7 years and this is the first year that it is full of blossom. I am eagerly looking forward to the stunning berries in their scarlet calyxes. They dry beautifully and retain their colour too.

23/09/2013 at 08:31

This is Davidia involucrata, the Handkerchief Tree. It's a georgeous tree but it does take a while before you can enjoy it's flowers ( which look like small handkerchiefs), about ten years!!

If you want to keep the tree it would be advisable to move it from that spot because it will eventually reach to 12 m/ 38 ft. You can, of course, keep it at the height it is now, but in that case you'll hardly get any flowers at all. If you wish to move it, you can do so after the leaves have fallen but make sure that there's a rootball of about 50 cm in diameter, otherwise the roots might possibly dry out.


23/09/2013 at 08:57

Where did you get your 'Clerodendrum bungei' from Moargyl?

23/09/2013 at 08:58

Flowerchild is right!

Davidia involucrata it is.


23/09/2013 at 09:11

I personally don't think it's a Davidia involucrata the leaves on your tree are different to the leaves on Davidia involucrata.

The leaves on Davidia involucrata are smooth with the leaf structure on the underside were your leafs are rough and structure is really visible on the face

But I'm a clueless beginner


23/09/2013 at 09:29

I've never had a close encounter with Davidia involocruta but I looked at some images

and it seemed to match pretty well


23/09/2013 at 10:44

There are 2 different Davidia.

Davidia involucrata and Davidia involucrata var vilmoriniana.

One has completely smooth leaves the other has hairy leaves.

Forget which way round it is.


We had a 15 year old specimen that flowered in the last 2 years.

I knew I recognised the leaf earlier just couldn't think why!

23/09/2013 at 10:48

...this is Davidia involucrata, if you want to enlarge and compare...


23/09/2013 at 11:18

Lovely, can't think where I'd fit it in though.

Re the C. bungeii which it should have been, how hardy is that? It's been on my 'maybe' list for some time

23/09/2013 at 12:51

C. bungeii......I see one in a town garden in Fenland that seems to survive well enough - on my way to work...although I believe they die back to ground level like Fuchsia's and regrow to flower in the same season, if caught by severe weather....

..perhaps best for the south coast....? any case the leaves are smelly when crushed....


..p.s. I'm having trouble with the forums workings today...I don't think they like people who don't visit too often...

23/09/2013 at 17:03

C. trichotomum smells as well, the floers have a good scent but you have to be careful not to touch a leaf when smelling them

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