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Does P. opulifolius 'Diablo'  look totally dead at this time of year or is mine totally dead?

I fear the latter


Are they not a bit dubious hardiness - wise nut?


Are they Fg?, I didn't know that, probably dead then. Though it survived the last 2 winters.

A friend has one of small tree proportions and I assumed it was hardy. 

Thanks Fairy, another one for the shredder


Not 100% sure nut - maybe I'm wrong. Will have a little look around- perhaps I'm thinking of something else 


Nut, RHS says it's suckering - maybe if the top growth is kaput the roots may throw up some new shoots 



Had a quick look at RHS site- seems they are hardy so I must have been having a senior moment nut! 

Is there no sign of life? Would have thought you'd have had a shoot or two by now if it's reasonably mature and established.


Very shrunken looking buds. I fear the worst About 4 years old, more if you count nursery time, 3 or 4 foot high

Ah well, plant fairs coming up soon

Maybe  I'll continue my boundary wildlife hedge through where it was, plenty of free seedlings around the place 


When one door closes nut...


True Fairy

I have one great skill in gardening. As soon as something dies I can see how much better the garden is without it. It saves a lot of grief

Diablo doesn't look exactly alive right now.  For me it is a,very hardy non suckering shrub. I cut mine down hard Annually so mine looks dead at moment.  

Just wait  for a couple of weeks or so ...or even now look for signs of budding. 

Diablo is a bush I can't decideof I like it or not.  Brown leaves?  A hardy geranium, Ann folkard, foregrounds it and sets it off but purple cotinus is better.

Ashleigh 2

I'd never heard of this so I googled it, looks gorgeous.


Senior moment right enough .I was thinking of Pittosporum not Physocarpus. 

I've steered away from Pittosporum  because of the  hardiness issue although I love the look of many of them. I can't be doing with stuff I have to mollycoddle too much! 


Nor can I Fairy. If it can't look after itself, it's out


Anne Folkard is a favourite of mine. I've grown it with Euphorbias which picked up the foliage colour , Sedum sp 'Brilliant', and a  bronze dwarf Phormium. I think some of the purple foliage plants can be a bit dull if they're not teamed up well with other things. I don't like the Cotinus flowers Verd so I've not grown it for a while - the Sambucus is the same for me - I'd have to go round chopping the flowers off! 

Ditto fairy.  I grow royal purple and  sambucus for their foliage only. 



Ahh Verd - so many flowers, so little time... 

Those lilac Hosta ones as well  

Talking of hostas got some coming tomorrow.  Jealous? 


Verdun, when do you cut your 'diabolo' hard?  I have one that is several years old, been frozen hard and drowned, but gives the most stunning foliage year after year.  I don't reckon the title pink flowers much, but the leaves ………   I've never really known when or how hard to prune it, just take bits off when the fancy takes me.  

I've got blue cammasia in front of it, followed by bears breeches, with various hardy geraniums and grasses everywhere.  Not much organisation to my gardening really.



re the original post.

It wasn't dead but there were a lot of branches that were dead. New growth appeared through the summer but now it's looking dead again. 

I think it will have to go.

It's in very poor dumped soil with added rubbish. What would cope well with that?


Don't give up yet! Ours looks dead in Winter but I can see tiny red leaf buds.  We also have a dwarf version of Diablo, called "Little Devil".  Unlike the Diablo it kept its leaves throughout winter.  Our dwarf plants already have suckering shoots from which we can take offcuts. We may have a spare offcut of the dwarf if you can wait till Spring. With lovely chocolate leaves, beautiful blossom and red berries, and it can take hard pruning, I'm surprised they are not more widely known.  Our local nursery also sells other hydrids ranging from acid yellow to red/orange leaves, very tempting to have more.