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28/08/2013 at 19:09






 Top plant, grown from one seed, fast grower,is it a perenial? Second plant, no idea, just grew in pot, very slow grower. Third plant, also came up in pot, stem feels woody

28/08/2013 at 20:11

The top one looks a tiny bit like a kind of phacelia,

Does the bottom one have very smelly leaves?

28/08/2013 at 20:22

I thought the top one might be the annual echium but I don't know them well enough to be sure

The bottom one agastache rugosa

the middle one could be one of the campanulas, 


28/08/2013 at 20:26

Thanks waterbutts, the bottom one, no real smell at all.the stem looks and feels woody .there is another small branch lower down the stem ,not in photo sorry,with another flower as main stem.Top one came from a scatter and grow a bluegarden seed box.

28/08/2013 at 20:27

might not be agastache then if no smell

28/08/2013 at 20:32

Thanks nutcutlet.will google and check.thank you and waterbutts for your interest.

28/08/2013 at 20:56

Have pinched one of the leaves and got a definate minty licorice smell.Thankyou again.

29/08/2013 at 11:00

SEcond does look like a campanula. The ones with the the long belll flowers like campanula punctata rubra.

29/08/2013 at 11:23

the top on is vipers bugloss second one not so sure of.. the third one is agastache i have them in my garden

29/08/2013 at 11:24

sorry did wrong button the vipers bugloss is not perennial but it self seeds like a foxglove if you let it.. tiney black seeds when flowes are gone.. is it bit prickey when you touch it.. that is vipers bugloss

the agastache is meant to be perennial but i treat it as half hardy depending on where you are..

sorry cant help on second one

29/08/2013 at 11:50

That top one looks like the little annual echium that comes in the bee mixes rather than the biennial native Viper's Bugloss

29/08/2013 at 11:55

i dunno nutcutlet.. its looks like my vipers, the curve of the flower stem and the colour of the flowers..


29/08/2013 at 11:57

A pic of the whole plant would tell us wouldn't it? Can we have one please Wendy

29/08/2013 at 12:01

you may be right nut... it is hard to tell its height from teh piccie or how the leafs are

29/08/2013 at 12:23

I've been googling around and both these plants seem to be called Echium vulgare. One is a short annual and the other is a tall biennial. What do we deduce from that? 

29/08/2013 at 19:22

@nut... only that they are the same plant only one talle than the other i am rather keen to get some seed for the smaller annual one..

29/08/2013 at 19:23

can't help you there gardeningfantic. However, if you'd like the tall biennial one I can supply that

29/08/2013 at 19:28

thanks nut.. but i have harvested my own this year.. got some seeds last year and love this plant so much.. i was told in the shade but wondered it it would like the sun as want to show it off really

29/08/2013 at 20:22

Hello everyone,I`m always surprised by the interest shown by everybody.many thanks.I`ve just come in this evening ,and it`s to dark now for a better photo.Will try tomorrow. gardeningfantic--- the stem and leaves are prickly to touch.

29/08/2013 at 20:36
gardeningfantic wrote (see)

thanks nut.. but i have harvested my own this year.. got some seeds last year and love this plant so much.. i was told in the shade but wondered it it would like the sun as want to show it off really


Mine seed around like mad but the best ones are in the sun. It grows on sand dunes in the open so hot and dry should suit it


Some of us love the challenge of a 'what is it?' Wendy, we'll drivel on for hours sometimes with suggestions and discussions

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