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Please excuse the basic question but this is not something I know anything about. Could somebody ID these two tree species for please:


 Many thanks


Hi Steven., the top one looks like an ash, not sure about the other , but wondered if the other is a Rowan. Can you send a picture of the tree ?

The tree that the bottom one came from was no more than about 8 ft tall and is in wood near us that has a lot of large oak trees. There are a lot of these smaller trees growing around the oaks. All are small, look relatively young and I cant see a mature one around at all.

They have smooth bark, straight trunks and no flowers or seeds on them.

I can try and get a picture if you think it will help.



that would help. trunk and branches as well. They give the 'feel' of the tree more than just a .leaf



I don't recognise these g_m but my lack of answer will get your question up to the front page again

Is the first picture definitley of an Ash?


It looks like an ash to me - and the picture of the sapling looks like an ash to me too, and we have two mature ash trees in our garden 

If they are both Ash trees, how come the leaves are different?



I need more photos. Bark, buds, leafjoints.Do they flower etc


...the top one Ash, the bottom on I think, Elder, which usually has 5-9 leaflets, sometimes 11..serrated edges... to my eye it has a 'Sambucus' shape... one that's been growing in some shade...which has drawn it up...

OK, that makes sense, is there an easy way of telling which is which?



Elder can easily be identified. It stinks. Nothing else smells like it. 

It's hard to tell from photos as you can't see what you need to see. (and smell and feel). 

In your picure of the small tree, which of the leaf photos belong to it?

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