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25/06/2012 at 23:37

I would be very grateful if anyone could possibly identify these plants for me?

As you can tell I am a gardening novice and I sprinkled lots of seeds (forgot what I bought) and inherited a very over grown garden, and cultivation of the masterpiece that I anticipated this time last year is not going well!

plant 1- This is growing in what was the previous garden owner’s herb patch: 

http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii542/ClemNewcastle/identifyplant1.jpg

 

plant 2- I was very disappointed when this triphid produced this tiny yellow flower. I then thought it could be a vegetable, dug it up…no. No idea now!

http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii542/ClemNewcastle/identifyplant2.jpg

 

plant 3- I planted a red hot poker in this spot, but don’t think this is what is growing here:

http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii542/ClemNewcastle/identifyplant3.jpg

 

plant 4 and 5- absolutely no idea what this seedlings are:

http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii542/ClemNewcastle/identifyplants4and5.jpg

 

plant 6- Now this plant is a fast grower, but I sadly think that it’s probably a weed ?!

http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii542/ClemNewcastle/identifyplant6.jpg

 

plant 7- well, I planted sweet pea everlasting in this spot in April and knew I had to stake them, then I sprinkled a few extra here and there for good luck and now these vines (if that’s the right word0 are strangling everything. I suddenly thought they looked like bineweed and could be inherited from previous owner, but don’t look like bineweed pictures of Google images.

http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii542/ClemNewcastle/identifyplant7.jpg

 

Plant 8- I put ‘bird and butterfly seed mix’ down here:

http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii542/ClemNewcastle/identifyplant8.jpg

 

plant 9- I thought this could be a thistle but it isn’t prickly:

http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii542/ClemNewcastle/identifyplant9.jpg

 

Mixture 1: here’s a real array of plants, and ideas are much appreciated:

http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii542/ClemNewcastle/identifyplants-amixture.jpg

 

Mixture 2: I planted this out as a veg patch and can’t tell whether these are nasturtion plants left over from where previous owner grew them, or pumpkins, as she had those too.  

http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii542/ClemNewcastle/identifyplants-amixture2.jpg

Any ideas/comments are very much appreciated.

Many thanks for any help in advance,

Rachel

26/06/2012 at 05:41

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

26/06/2012 at 05:45

#1
http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii542/ClemNewcastle/identifyplant1.jpg

Looks vaguely like a strawberry; or perhaps some kind of herb.

#2
http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii542/ClemNewcastle/identifyplant2.jpg

Ths is a buttercup - hence the tiny yellow flowers - needs to be removed, together with all its roots.

#3
http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii542/ClemNewcastle/identifyplant3.jpg

There are 2 plants in this photo, the bigger top plant, I guess that's the one you mean, looks like a primrose or polyanthus - would have flowered in early Spring, if it is.

#4 & #5
http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii542/ClemNewcastle/identifyplants4and5.jpg

(small plants on the left) - probably some form of willow herb, or somethng similar - I'd remove those.

(larger plant on right) - not sure of these - I'd leave them.

There's a small seedling at the extreme bottom right that has an interesting leaf-shape; it's similar to one at the extreme left-centre (aquilegia? or nasturtian?).

#6
http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii542/ClemNewcastle/identifyplant6.jpg
 
This is the same plant as #4 but grown up - remove it. It should pull up quite easily.

#7
http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii542/ClemNewcastle/identifyplant7.jpg

Yes, this is bindweed; it does actually have quite pretty white flowers; but most people would remove it. The roots may go quite deep and would need to be removed too,.

#8
http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii542/ClemNewcastle/identifyplant8.jpg

Not sure about this one; but the main plant is surrounded by buttercup, which ought to be removed (unless you like buttercups.)

#9
http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii542/ClemNewcastle/identifyplant9.jpg

I think that is a type of thistle; it will probably develop with a thick hollow stem and small yellow flowers.

Mix 1
http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii542/ClemNewcastle/identifyplants-amixture.jpg

The main plants look like genuine flowers (possibly nicotiana or marygolds - I'm not sure what they are); the plants on the right look like #5 or possibly small buttercups.

The pale blueish-green plant, lower right, is possibly a small annual poppy.

Mix 2
http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii542/ClemNewcastle/identifyplants-amixture2.jpg

Correct, they are nasturtians.

26/06/2012 at 06:34

Having a quick look through Gary's ident I think I'd be inclined to cut your losses Mum, dig everything up and start again. You really need to get rid of the weeds first - especially the bindweed. When I first moved in my current house my back garden looked like that - actually there were less plants. My preferred method of gardening is show no soil. I now probably spend an hour a month weeding using this method. The initial hard work pays off in the long run.

The ones which are plants you can pot up and put back in, though the nicotania is an annual so it is unlikley to survive into next year. I imagine the Aquilega is the common form - usually arrived at by planting a named variety and then allowing it to seed. Initially I'd pull those out too. You'll probably not get them all anyway and they are pretty.

Right off to work now. Typical, since the weekend finished the weather's been lovely!

 

 

26/06/2012 at 06:58

#1.  Could be lovage (herb) could be astrantia major (herbaceous perennial - cottage garden flower) both worth keeping.  Wait and see what happens.  If it grows tall with hollow stems it's lovage (chop into salads), if it develops flowers something like this  transplant it to the flower garden next springhttp://www.google.co.uk/search?q=astrantia+major&hl=en&rlz=1C1SVEE_enGB425GB425&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=lkzpT96pA8OY8QOL7JTyDQ&sqi=2&ved=0CFgQsAQ&biw=2051&bih=965

 

#3 either a foxglove or alkinet.  Keep an eye on it - if it develops little blue flowers it's alkinet - dig it out and get all the root, it spreads like mad.  If it's a foxglove and you like them then   It might just be comfrey, but the leaves look too soft to me.

 

#4 and 5, little ones are willowherb - get rid of these as soon as.  The other could be celery or parsnip or feverfew  (is this an old veg patch?) - I'd dig them out if I were you.

#8 looks like a potato to me.

Mix 1.  The bigger leaves could be foxgloves in their first year (will flower next year) or could be comfrey or alkinet.  If the leaves are soft and downy they're foxgloves, if they're slightly bristly they're comfrey or alkinet.  Alkinet has blue flowers - pull it up. Comfrey - google it and then decide what you want to do with it.

 

The ones I've not mentioned I think have been identified correctly 

 

 

 

 

26/06/2012 at 08:12

Id agree with quercus_rubur, Nothing worth keeping, weed kill as you have some invasive weeds in there. Then improve your soil, I add a bag of compost and give it a feed then enjoy planting it up

26/06/2012 at 10:55

I would definately get rid of the buttercup thing, it looks like what I have been battling with. Spreads everywhere, can choke everything and has very deep roots. Horrible things

26/06/2012 at 11:29

Bear in mind that there will be thousands of weed seeds still dormant in the soil, and these will potentially germinate in coming years. So simply doing some weeding now is just the start. You'll have a fresh crop of weeds to deal with next year.

Weed seeds normally only germinate if they have light and bare soil in which to grow.

quercus_rubur wrote (see)

...My preferred method of gardening is show no soil. I now probably spend an hour a month weeding using this method....

This is really the key to reducing weeding - making sure that the ground is covered by plants that you want. If you want a tidy row of vegatables, surrounded by bare soil, then you'll need to keep weeding the soil around them.

26/06/2012 at 14:26

Let's not be too dramatic with the kill everything approach, there's nothing there that a little hard work and knowledge can't sort out.

My first question would be do you know anyone with a few years gardening experience? It would be a good idea to get someone you know to have a walk around your garden with you and have a chat about what you sould keep and what you should pull up.

Weed killer and improving the soil will not stop any weeds dormant in the soil from coming back, knowledge of what the plants are is the best form of defence.

I'm guessing Mum's a new gardener and wish her the very best of luck.

 

26/06/2012 at 15:19

Hello everyone,

yes, correctly guessed, this Newcastle mum is a new gardener, in my twenties, and with wo young boys to stop gardening progress in it's tracks! Can't believe I've grown bindweed up garden stakes thinking that they're sweet peas!  I completely love this new found passion for gardening but gosh it is hard if you have absolutely no knowledge of gardening previously. (your advice has been invaluable- thank you). When I moved in last autumn the garden was covered in snowberry bush. We dug it up, naively believing that by June 2012 I'd have something rivaling Monty's Longmeadows. haha! (it's postage stamp size to boot).

Thank you so much for all your help with identification. I think that my hasty investment in Poundland's 'Rake and Shake' wildflower seed will be my regret for time to come, as these buttercups are now everywhere, and I honestly believed I was growing large vegetables- marrows even.  The only flowers looking to have any potential are the poppies sown by my toddler.

I have elderly gardening-keen neighbours who might help with further identification, but I'm too embarassed to show them my weeds. I've been watering them! haha.

Thank you for your help once again, it is very much appreciated.

Rachel

26/06/2012 at 15:37

Rachel,  98% of keen gardeners love to share their knowledge and spare plants, 50% of my garden plants are donations. I would knock and invite them around I am sure they will happily share their knowledge in return for a cuppa.

You would be better off with a few good doers,try Hardy geraniums, Lavender, Daylilies, Hebes. Seeds sound very easy but those mixed packets are not great. 

26/06/2012 at 16:24

I echo the above, gardeners love to see other people's gardens and also love talking about plants be they weeds or not. Invite your neighbours round.

I made exactly the same mistake as you in my first year gardening, chucked a load of mixed seeds down in the hope something that looked like the picture would pop up, it didn't, and like you I ended up growing some beautifully nurtured weeds.

Don't fret over it, it just proves you're good at growing things.

26/06/2012 at 17:26

Those mixtures do occasionally work. I've tried them myself and they can sometimes work well. Based on past successes I actually tried a couple of mixes this year, but they have been dismal failures. I've attributed that mainly to the poor weather.

One major problem with a mix is that loads of stuff germinates (if you're lucky) but you really don't know which seedlings come from the seed you've sown, and which come from weed seeds that were in the soil. Some people sow mixtures in marked rows, so they know exactly where the desired seedlings ought to be.

It's heartening that you chose to sow a wildflower mixture. It shows good intent.

A mixture might be ambitious for a beginner. Buying very small plants early in the season (and making sure slugs don't eat them) might be more reliable. Or sowing individual varieties of seeds that are easy to grow, like sweet peas.

It's probably not too late to buy some little sweet pea plants to grow up those canes, and a box of small annuals, to brighten things up.

26/06/2012 at 17:45

On the annuals front my local B&Q has loads of discounted trays of plants that have a few plants missing each or just need a good water to freshen them up. They're priced as low as 50p each tray but you'll have to find the discount section. This year I've bought petunias, lobellia, marigolds, geraniums and verbena all discounted, I guess that the rubbish weather we've been having has put people off buying plants.

26/06/2012 at 23:09

Thank you so much for all these kind words. I will definately try to find some sweet peas and visit the discounted section in the garden centre and ask my neighbour round. great ideas!  I've heard that toddlers and babies love marigolds, so maybe I will experiment with child friendly gardening this year...and remove those possible foxgloves as mentioned! your encouragement is really appreciated- thank you!

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