Hi, sorry - I'm not sure what's happened there - I typed a long post yesterday - perhaps I forgot to hit submit
Anyway, that first one looks like a climber to me - but it's not been trained and pruned terribly well. I'd cut it all right down to about 12" from the ground - I know that seems drastic, but it will put out new growth from the base and then you can train it properly. Doing this does mean that you may not get blooms this summer, but it will be unrecognisably better in future years
It will need a bigger trellis or vine eyes and wires fixed to the wall - then the new growth should be trained as near to the horizontal as possible as this will encourage it to put out side shoots which is where most of the blooms will appear. When the plant has developed and been trained properly it should be in a sort of fan shape.
If it grows straight up as it is at the moment it will just have flowers at the top way above your head
There's some info here which may be clearer http://www.rose-gardening-made-easy.com/how-to-train-climbing-roses.html
The other rose looks like a bush or shrub type rose and should be pruned as per the diagram in the David Austin link I posted earlier.
Both of them should have a circle of at least 18" diameter of clear soil at their base, so that you can give them a feed of Fish Blood and Bone and a mulch of well rotted farm yard manure or garden compost. Don't let the manure touch the stem of the bush or it will burn and damage it.
When they flower post some pics on here and we can have a go at naming them