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24/04/2013 at 12:14

Can I plant a rambling rose to grow up a fir tree or is the environment too acid?  Have many fir trees and want to make them a little more interesting.

24/04/2013 at 13:24 can plant one, but it's whether you'll want to spend the time tieing the rose to the tree, as it will need constant attention to train it upwards, as it won't cling without adequate support... a better option that I've seen on pine trees is Clematis montana, as they are self clinging. 

I'm assuming your pine tree is conical shape.  A rambling rose would  be better rambling through a more open tree with a many branched system so it can weave it's way through.  I planted rose 'Paul's Himalayan Musk' through a big willow tree, for instance... it needed no more help from me, so just a thought there, before you go ahead... as rambling roses naturally will just prostrate themselves along the ground unless you tie them to something or aim them towards an appropriate support...

24/04/2013 at 14:31

I think the rose would struggle. Conifers suck all the moisture out if the soli with their fine surface roots, as well as the soil becoming acid.

24/04/2013 at 14:51

plant climbing nasturtiums to create a flowering conifer effect

24/04/2013 at 18:23

Good idea for a small conifer, JW. Think I'll do that myself. But I'm thinking that this must be a large one for a rambler to be considered??

24/04/2013 at 18:55

Thanks for all the advice - the montana clematis is a great idea as is the nasturtiums

20/10/2014 at 16:23

I have a potted rambling rose I would like to plant in an obelisk about 6' tall will it work 

20/10/2014 at 16:50

What variety is it, Lizyann? If it is a rambler, rather than a climber, it will grow into quite a large plant in all probability. Large plants in pots need a lot of food, a lot of water and a lorra lorra attention.

23/10/2014 at 16:49

It is called little rambler with clusters of tiny pink roses with a lovely perfume pansy face

13/01/2015 at 14:06

I've just looked at this, we have 6 x 80ft scots pines down the end of the garden as well as two oak and a sycamore (which I'd love to get rid of)

I was thinking about whether to plant a rose to go up any of these, but love the idea of the montana clematis.   Hmm now which tree to choose for the clematis ?

13/01/2015 at 14:22

Just bear in mind that clematis are extremely hungry, thirty plants and prefer alkaline to acid soil.  You are going to have to dig a very good hole, nourish it with plenty of well rotted garden compost and some manure and plant the clematis deep and well away from the conifers and then guid it in till it gets established and takes off by itself.

You'll need to give it an annual winter mulch plus slow release feed clematis food in spring and some liquid tonics of rose or tomato food te minute sprong starts it into new growth as montana flowers early.

13/01/2015 at 17:25

Can't wait for sprong meself 

(Sorry obelixx)

14/01/2015 at 14:39

Well I have planted my rambling rose (little rambler) in the garden with the obolisk so now I shall see what this year brings( a lovely abundance of clusters of small scented pale pink roses )I hope.

08/07/2015 at 18:15

Interesting thoughts above. We are cutting  back (aka butchering) the foiliage of the Leylandii which was over hanging the bottom of my garden by about 5 ft in places. (I finally cracked after putting up with it for far too long.) I am hoping now my other shrubs will start to  grow up straight.

I was wondering about how easy it would be to grow up a vigorous Rose up the remaining branches but it seems that others think this might be difficult.

I already have a  clematis montana rubens going up this dreadful hedge. I am on a rather acidic sandy soil but the clematis seems to be surviving.

Does anyone think it would it be worth trying a vigorous rambling rose or just putting in another clematis montana to liven it up. The fence at the bottom of the garden is about 90ft long, there is plenty of room. 

09/07/2015 at 18:43

Go for something like Kiftsgate or Rambling Rector and you should be fine - as long as you prepare the planting hole well with plenaty of well rotted manure and/or garden compost and water it regularly in its first year and feed it generously every spring.   Both have clusters of creamy white flowers and will look gorgeous against dark green conifers.

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