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Can I plant a rambling rose to grow up a fir tree or is the environment too acid?  Have many fir trees and want to make them a little more interesting.

Salino can plant one, but it's whether you'll want to spend the time tieing the rose to the tree, as it will need constant attention to train it upwards, as it won't cling without adequate support... a better option that I've seen on pine trees is Clematis montana, as they are self clinging. 

I'm assuming your pine tree is conical shape.  A rambling rose would  be better rambling through a more open tree with a many branched system so it can weave it's way through.  I planted rose 'Paul's Himalayan Musk' through a big willow tree, for instance... it needed no more help from me, so just a thought there, before you go ahead... as rambling roses naturally will just prostrate themselves along the ground unless you tie them to something or aim them towards an appropriate support...


I think the rose would struggle. Conifers suck all the moisture out if the soli with their fine surface roots, as well as the soil becoming acid.

plant climbing nasturtiums to create a flowering conifer effect

Gardening Grandma

Good idea for a small conifer, JW. Think I'll do that myself. But I'm thinking that this must be a large one for a rambler to be considered??


Thanks for all the advice - the montana clematis is a great idea as is the nasturtiums

I have a potted rambling rose I would like to plant in an obelisk about 6' tall will it work 


What variety is it, Lizyann? If it is a rambler, rather than a climber, it will grow into quite a large plant in all probability. Large plants in pots need a lot of food, a lot of water and a lorra lorra attention.

It is called little rambler with clusters of tiny pink roses with a lovely perfume pansy face

I've just looked at this, we have 6 x 80ft scots pines down the end of the garden as well as two oak and a sycamore (which I'd love to get rid of)

I was thinking about whether to plant a rose to go up any of these, but love the idea of the montana clematis.   Hmm now which tree to choose for the clematis ?


Just bear in mind that clematis are extremely hungry, thirty plants and prefer alkaline to acid soil.  You are going to have to dig a very good hole, nourish it with plenty of well rotted garden compost and some manure and plant the clematis deep and well away from the conifers and then guid it in till it gets established and takes off by itself.

You'll need to give it an annual winter mulch plus slow release feed clematis food in spring and some liquid tonics of rose or tomato food te minute sprong starts it into new growth as montana flowers early.

Can't wait for sprong meself 

(Sorry obelixx)

Well I have planted my rambling rose (little rambler) in the garden with the obolisk so now I shall see what this year brings( a lovely abundance of clusters of small scented pale pink roses )I hope.


Interesting thoughts above. We are cutting  back (aka butchering) the foiliage of the Leylandii which was over hanging the bottom of my garden by about 5 ft in places. (I finally cracked after putting up with it for far too long.) I am hoping now my other shrubs will start to  grow up straight.

I was wondering about how easy it would be to grow up a vigorous Rose up the remaining branches but it seems that others think this might be difficult.

I already have a  clematis montana rubens going up this dreadful hedge. I am on a rather acidic sandy soil but the clematis seems to be surviving.

Does anyone think it would it be worth trying a vigorous rambling rose or just putting in another clematis montana to liven it up. The fence at the bottom of the garden is about 90ft long, there is plenty of room. 


Go for something like Kiftsgate or Rambling Rector and you should be fine - as long as you prepare the planting hole well with plenaty of well rotted manure and/or garden compost and water it regularly in its first year and feed it generously every spring.   Both have clusters of creamy white flowers and will look gorgeous against dark green conifers.


We have a very large conifer and have planted a kiftgate Rose with the hope it would grow up it to help it look more interesting, but we have found that the kiftgate just grows on the edge of the tree and if it gets a bit windy they end up sticking out all over the place, and as they have very large thorns could be dangerous, what is the best way to get it to go up the trunk of the tree then it can branch our to show it's roses, we were told the Kiftgate was the ideal Rose for this as it's thorns being large dig in to help it climb up the trunk, We have cut off some of the very low branches on the conifer so we could fasten the rose to the trunk to help it get started, but it still end up hanging out instead of going up, and suggestions please!!!!! 


Climbing roses are not self supporting, they have to be attached. It works when a rose grows through a tree with more open branches, such as an old apple tree, as the branches help to support it. I think you would have to tie it to the conifer at strategic points, but don't ask me how!

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