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08/06/2013 at 11:36

all talking about roses.. i have never been a lover of roses.. but i think as i have got older my choice of plants has changed i have this year for the first time done fuschias.. i will add pic of them later.. all taken from cuttings i have taken as walking past gardens or been given by a friend who has them..

and i have also started roses.. we have two very very old ones in our garden.. pink flowers one very old fashioned rose full tight with petals and flowers continuously if i dead head it and one that has one lot of pink flowers and more open singular petal flower and only flowers the once..

they have started to get old and tired.. and one is in totally wrong place.. so last year i took three cuttings from each of them as i read on here.. and i lost 1 on one and 2 on other.. so now i can grow them on and plant out in new borders.. and dig othes up without worrying if they die in the move..

i will get some pictures of them and hopefully someone on here can identify the plants for me.. as i have no idea what they are called.

and maybe give me some ides for roses i can have that stay as bush form rather than climbers..

08/06/2013 at 11:43
Salino wrote (see)

...have a look at Clematis 'Carnaby' and see if it's that one...

Hi Salino, I think you're right, Carnaby is the closest I've seen to date. Thanks

08/06/2013 at 11:50

Carnaby has different stamens John- kind of open whereas Dr R's are  closed. It's also much lighter - more pink and pale pink.

08/06/2013 at 12:04
Fairygirl wrote (see)

Carnaby has different stamens John- kind of open whereas Dr R's are  closed. It's also much lighter - more pink and pale pink.

But looking at the pics on Google the stamens on Dr R are red (oops, edit: that was Lincoln Star with red stamens) whereas on mine they're creamy white. Also the Dr R I saw only has 6 sepals - again, mine has 8

08/06/2013 at 14:28

John, why not ask the nursery you bought it from - they are hardly likely to have stocked two such similar plants and will have a record of the name.

08/06/2013 at 14:36

...on reflection John, I'm inclined to agree now with others that it's most likely Dr Ruppel, if either of these two... comparing them on the Thorncroft clematis site which has good photos of each...

...the sepal count can vary so we shouldn't read too much into that...

whichever... gorgeous colours...

08/06/2013 at 14:43
happymarion wrote (see)

John, why not ask the nursery you bought it from - they are hardly likely to have stocked two such similar plants and will have a record of the name.

Sadly I visit so many different Garden Centres & Nurserys I can't remember which one it was now (it was about 5 years ago when we got it). The plant hasn't done much until this year when amazingly it has just suddenly taken off. It was next to an Azalea which was planted in Ericacious compost and we moved the Azalea to another part of the garden with all its soil. That's probably why it's now taken off (our soil is mostly ph7). The Azalea also obviously has liked the move as it's done better this year than ever before.

08/06/2013 at 19:54

John take a look at Taylor's Clematis site- the pix are really good on there. It looks much more like Dr R than Carnaby on there.

Presumably it was V. Pennel you actually wanted though- that's really the point isn't it!!! They couldn't be more different as you say.

08/06/2013 at 20:17

My wisteria seems to be later than everyone elses, but has finally got into its stride:

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/25053.jpg?width=307&height=350&mode=max

 Parked my chair underneath it this afternoon to make the most of the scent - yummy!

08/06/2013 at 20:40

^that's a beauty chicky - great colour on that...

for anyone interested in this Clematis puzzle, including John H, you might like to have a look at these gorgeous Clematis photos I found on Flickr... they include Dr Ruppel, Carnaby, and another to consider in Bee's Jubilee... amongst some very beautiful others... that make me feel I want to rush out and buy a load...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/49153110@N04/galleries/72157627878107688/#photo_2212167499

http://www.flickr.com/photos/49153110@N04/galleries/72157627879783844/#photo_513767754

 

 

08/06/2013 at 21:15

Chicky, so many blooms, wow

08/06/2013 at 21:18

Hi Salino, Really beautifull pics of clematis on those sites - well done. Still not sure about the Dr Ruppell; close (closer I think than Carnaby) - I'll take an A4 photo with me to Gardeners World Live on Weds and see if I can get it identified for sure.

08/06/2013 at 22:17

Some photo's from today;  A bit of a red theme.

Clematis "Rebecca".  I need to move this as it's not getting enough sun, but is the reddest one I have growing:

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/25067.jpg?width=288&height=350&mode=max

Oriental poppies:

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/25068.jpg?width=288&height=350&mode=max

Peony in full bloom:

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/25069.jpg?width=288&height=350&mode=max

 and lupins:

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/25070.jpg?width=288&height=350&mode=max

 

 

08/06/2013 at 22:26

Lovely zingy colours Bob - the peony in particular is beautiful

08/06/2013 at 22:29

Gorgeous Wisteria Chicky and what a beautiful clematis Bob. I actually like that one

09/06/2013 at 17:13

Thought i'd share this really nice aquilegia, i know they are common as muck, but this lavender one is really pretty. It's in what i call my wild flower border outside the garden leading down to the field. Very nice.. may split it when it get's bigger and make it into the actual garden! I think it's a "swan" type.

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/25142.jpg?width=452&height=513&mode=max

 

 Oh.. and whoever suggested the climbing hydrangea.. i was down the garden centre on saturday and picked one up

09/06/2013 at 20:23

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/25163.jpg?width=480&height=350&mode=max

 Flax, don't think I have posted this before

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/25164.jpg?width=480&height=350&mode=max

 A nameless Clematis

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/25165.jpg?width=480&height=350&mode=max

 Nectoscordium?

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/25166.jpg?width=480&height=350&mode=max

 Rose; Shining Light

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/25167.jpg?width=480&height=350&mode=max

 Rose; Margaret Merrill

09/06/2013 at 20:44

Lovely art - the third picture of the droopy bells is partcularly gorgeous - does it come from a bulb??

Andy -I love those fancy aquiliegia - I have added a few to my collection this year -all named after american states.  I have lots of the native ones too - so hopefully they are something that likes my conditions.

09/06/2013 at 21:02

I started a new thread today called "Painting what you've grown".Looking forward to seeing some art work.

09/06/2013 at 22:00

Chicky, I think I got them in a plant auction last year; so just emptied the pots into the ground, but should imagine they are a bulb. They have multiplied quite a bit and formed a little clump in poor shallow soil, in pretty much full sun (ha, what full sun?)

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