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23/04/2014 at 10:58

Hi All,

Can anyone help to identify these plants?

I received the first two as part of my '5 pot luck perennials' offer from lavender world...



Hosta? Soloman's Seal?


It's the primula leaved one in the centre - I'm guessing it's a weed as it's grown up very quick.


 The smell and shape of the leaves are similar to my flowering currant but this appeared and leafed up well before the ribes did.  This is a self seed btw, I just potted it up to watch it.




23/04/2014 at 13:19

Can't help with 1 - 3 Victoria but I would have gone with Ribes for number 4 as well! Not so many plants that smell like cat wee!

23/04/2014 at 13:31

Cat wee! It didn't remind me of that, but I'll have a test sniff... 

The leaves are twice the size of my ribes, I'll keep an eye on it 

Cheers for the reply though, Heather  Much appreciated!

23/04/2014 at 13:53

It only smells of cat wee when you bring the branches of flowers into the house, otherwise it smells OK.

23/04/2014 at 13:53

No. 1 could be Caltha palustris - marsh marigold

No. 2 I'd go for hosta

No. 3 looks a bit like foxglove ..... but it looks a bit like several other things too ..... 

No. 4 is one of the ribes

23/04/2014 at 14:48

a quick guessing game 1 might be honesty and 4 could be astrantia but leaves look a bit big 

23/04/2014 at 15:09

I can't help with the first three either but number 4 looks suspiciously like my flowering red currant.

23/04/2014 at 15:56

Cool! Thanks so much for your replies 

Dove, there are similarities with the marsh marigold, in particular how the new leaves come up

 I don't remember what mine looked like when it was younger. 

Kimrose, I looked up Honesty as I have never seen one in the flesh and the leaves are similar but it seemed to be a biannual? This was sold as a perennial unless there are different forms, I don't know.

2, I'm happy with hosta.

3, Dove, it does look like a foxglove, I don't know why I didn't think of that. Probably because mine don't look as nice or healthy. It's quite fuzzy like a foxglove. I've levered it up as it was quite close to an allium and it's roots were pretty deep for something that only appeared this year.

4, I think I've solved the riddle of the cat wee! Welsh onion, you are right it smells stronger in doors, but I can smell it outside as well. I can't smell my own ribes. The smell I got in the first place wasn't by sniffing the plant- I rubbed a leaf and compared it that way- it's a funky smell but I wouldn't say cat wee. I didn't notice the plant stank on its own but that does smell like cat wee...  So it's definitely a ribes, it's just thriving a lot better than the one I bought last back end, but that's sods law...

kimrose, I compared it with an astrantia too, but mine are still hugging the ground round here and this is about 6" tall.

Thanks all for your replies- that was quite exciting! Might look around for some more mysteries 

23/04/2014 at 17:15

I think 1 might be one of the Doronicums

not sure of 3 as a foxglove but haven't a better suggestion, except I have an Adenophora that looks a bit like that and seeds into everything. It dies alone in the garden but lives on in a pot of agapanthus and various other lodgings

23/04/2014 at 17:36

How about Ligularia dentata for the first one? Fairly sure it's not Caltha palustris.

23/04/2014 at 20:00

Hi Nutcutlet  You answered my first post last year before I got stuck in the spam filter...

Hi landgirl 

Right I've been looking up images of doronicum and ligularia and it seems they are both aster family which might explain the similarities in leaf.  I want to go with doronicum because the leaves are smaller than the ligularia although I don't know how old the plant is and how it might change.

According to my weed book, leopards bane leaves change shape further up the stem so maybe I'll have to wait and see.

I've decided 3 isn't a foxglove. That was a bad pic.

 It's got no discernible centre and I don't believe the way this is spreading is characteristic of a foxglove, but I'm happy to be corrected

Ref the ribes, mine is pulborough scarlet so maybe the self seeded one I've found is a normal one. 

Cheers for your help everyone,



23/04/2014 at 20:23

I think no3 is possibly an echinecea( cant spell it).

23/04/2014 at 20:30


I couldn't be happier if it was an echinacea!! I'm trying to grow them but they just get chewed.

Is there a non-herbaceous echinacea?


15/06/2014 at 09:50

Just resurrecting this thread to see if anyone recognises no. 3 now:

 It's leaves feel like sandpaper in texture. The plant is 14" high and its stem leaves are 3".

Cheers in advance



16/06/2014 at 09:26

Is anyone familiar with Ploughman's-spikenard (inula conyzae)? That is the closest I can find in my weed book.

16/06/2014 at 09:38

Any colour in that flowerhead yet Victoria?

16/06/2014 at 09:42

I think it's a campanula.

The one that stands about 18inches tall and has cluster of purple flowers

16/06/2014 at 09:54

Campanula glomerata?

How embarrassing - I bought that and thought I'd lost it.

Back into the border it goes!

Thank you

16/06/2014 at 10:10

That's the name, I couldn't remember it

16/06/2014 at 10:19

I think I'll mark that one with a stick for next year

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