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27/04/2014 at 21:29
Can somone tell me if this is a wild plant or a weed.ive found two small clumps growing near an old caretaker's bungalow on the boundary fence of a school.i wasn't sure they had been planted years ago when the bungalow was in use or are they just "WEEDS" I would like to addone two my woodland garden area but I am concerned they are a weed Any help identifying them would be much appreciated. ...
27/04/2014 at 21:33

If they're only small clumps now they're not that invasive so if you like them grow them.

When you say 4 lobed, do you mean 4 petals?


27/04/2014 at 21:39
Yes four trying to upload photos of my phone but cant find the icon to let me.

They are small delicate purple flowers like violas on a 12" fury stem there is only a few clumps so like you say they should be fine if they are only in small clumps next to the fence..
27/04/2014 at 21:39
27/04/2014 at 21:43

Could be but delicate isn't the first word that springs to mind on L orvala.

Leaves like nettles are right though

27/04/2014 at 21:46

Ah, cross-posted - hadn't seen the delicate and viola-like  

27/04/2014 at 21:47

Are they dead nettles perhaps?

27/04/2014 at 21:54

I'm trying to think what purple and out now and has leaves like nettles and flowers like violas

Out now I have the lamium Dove mentioned and the red deadnettle. Lathyrus vernus.


Honesty, the leaves are a bit nettle shaped

If it's honesty don't try and move it. It's biennial, wait for the seed and scatter it in your garden

27/04/2014 at 21:57

Does it look something like this?


27/04/2014 at 22:00

My Hesperis Matronalis is almost out, and I saw some out in a sheltered garden today - that might fit the bill 

27/04/2014 at 22:02

If we're boasting I had H. matrionalis on the New year's day flower count

27/04/2014 at 22:09

Dove and others.  You leave me standing.  On the RHS forum.  I have a friend. 'Silver Surfer'  Truly it makes me wonder.  Do some people sit there with fingers on the keys just waiting?  In all honesty.  This has to be the creme de la creme of gardening forums. There is such an abundance of knowledge.  I reckon there should be a kind of TV program, similar to University Challenge.  Gardeners World Forum  Challenge.  What say you?

27/04/2014 at 22:17

We're pretty good aren't we Mike. Silver Surfer posts here occasionally

I like a bit of detective work. It keeps me out of mischief in the evening. I don't get much enjoyment from TV watching so I don't watch. 

But I don't sit waiting, I wouldn't have the patience. I just wander through from time to time.

27/04/2014 at 23:27
THANKYOU to all for your help.I am 99% sure nutculet has found the plant.
The plant is called "Honesty".

I have already planted one in my garden but by looking at the plant profile on plant finder I think I have made an error by not waiting for the plant to seed then use them next year...
Suppose I will learn the difference beetween plants you can just plant and move to another place..and then the plants that you have to wait for seeds to develop the more experienced I get..
Thanks to all the members that helped find my plant ID.
27/04/2014 at 23:34

 Here's my Honesty patch today.  They're 4 foot high.

28/04/2014 at 00:07
They are the ones.i think they are a lovely delicate woodland style plant. Would I plant seeds now for next year or wait till later in the year before planting seeds.As by the way it sounds by members is that I have missed the chance to have them this year due to trying to move a grown plant instead of using seeds

28/04/2014 at 08:14

Your moved plant may survive perfectly well and seed in your garden. Look after it

28/04/2014 at 11:22

Interesting that this lovely plant, that we call 'Honesty', is called something very different in the Netherlands where it is known as 'Judas's pennies' - not an exact translation but close enough.  Guess the seed pods look like the 'pieces of silver' that Judas was given. 

28/04/2014 at 19:59

Some people also call it the money plant.

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