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02/05/2012 at 11:19

These two plants are popping up in various places in my garden. Can anyone tell me what they are?

02/05/2012 at 11:24

They look a bit like sweet williams, do you have any in your garden that may have self seeded?

02/05/2012 at 11:32

Hi Kate. There was one small sweet William in the garden when we moved in 6 years ago. It flowered for two years then disappeared. Could the seeds have lain dormant for so long?

02/05/2012 at 11:35

6 years is a long time, do any neighbours have them?

02/05/2012 at 12:21

Lorea-my guesses are usually wrong-but-could the second be a penstemon?

-if not it looks suspiciously like a weed that my neighbour seems to cultivate,but I don't know the name

02/05/2012 at 12:49

It could be rosebay willow herb, self seeds everywhere

02/05/2012 at 12:55

Hmmm, interesting suggestions. I suppose I could wait until it flowers and then get back to you!

02/05/2012 at 13:23

Not sure of first but second is pensteman.

Don't think 1st is willow bay herb. It has a reddish stem and leaves are different shape.

02/05/2012 at 13:35

I'm happy to be proved wrong but I'm with Muddyfork, we've a shed load that pop up every year at my Grannys!

02/05/2012 at 13:53
I have a tame white epilobium, just popped out to have a look, leaves much finer than no. 1. No.2 does look very much like a penstemon, but doesn't really fit in with the 'popping up in various places' unless previously cultivated in the last 6 years. IMHO!
02/05/2012 at 17:52

There's never been any penstemon in the garden as far as I know. There's definitely more of the first one than the second. I'd just like to be sure before I ruthlessly rip it all out that I'm not getting rid of something I might like.

02/05/2012 at 20:53
Are you gardening in a rural or built up area? Only asking because it might give some insight as to whether these are seed borne weeds. Do you have valerian growing near you? It might be helpful if you can pull up one of these mystery seedlings and post a pic of the root.
02/05/2012 at 21:37

Hi figrat, I garden in a rural area, and there are lots of things in the garden which I've seen in the surrounding countryside. I haven't seen any valerian though. Will gladly pull one up this weekend and take a photo of the root.

03/05/2012 at 12:45

top pic is Phlox bottom pic sweet william (i think) lol

03/05/2012 at 14:56

Not sure either is Penstemon, leaf shape looks entirely different from mine, could be wrong though!

03/05/2012 at 15:07

I think the plant on this thread from this morning

is a sweet william-having now looked again at Loreas picture they seem so similar that perhaps Kate is right with the original id-but keep that quiet

03/05/2012 at 15:18

I saw that too Geoff, and thought the same thing. I'm pretty sure it is sweet william, and I'm beginning to think that the first one is willow herb as muddyfork says, although I'd prefer it to be phlox!

03/05/2012 at 15:23

she will want the prize.

03/05/2012 at 19:13

I think the first plant is a willowherb but not the Rosebay willowherb.  There are lots of different sorts.  Broad leaved comes to mind.  You'll know better when it flowers.  Don't want to make a guess at all at the second one. Yet.


03/05/2012 at 20:20

hi lorea i'm almost certain that the plant youare looking at is Hesperis Matronalis or sweet rocket as my dear old Mum used to call it i have a garden full of it

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