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28/06/2013 at 19:40

The first picture is of plants/weeds that started coming up in early March.  They seem to have grown too slowly to be weeds and only now that some of them are 3 feet tall do they have flower buds on.  However if they ARE weeds, maybe I should dig them up pronto.


 The next picture is something I DID plant myself - bought for next to nothing and with no label, so a stupid thing to do if you don't know much about gardening!  Have I infested myself with golden rod or something else nasty?  They are doing nothing except being green and getting taller as yet.

 Any and all advice greatly appreciated, as ever.

28/06/2013 at 22:03

Come on girls and boys - 35 views and not a guess?  Or are both plants so obvious that you don't want to show me up?  I really don't mind !

28/06/2013 at 22:52

Looks a bit like my pet hate rosebay willowherb Sara but Loosestrife is similar so the one you planted could be that. If you wait  till flowers start appearing it's easier to tell and if it's widespread in the garden it's more likely to be a weed. You could search those online and see if they look like what you have. Rosebay has violet/purple flowers and Loosestrife is purple or yellow flowering, though there is a white one too. Some Euphorbias are very similar too so that's an option for the 2nd one as  well!

 Can you take another pic of the first one from a bit farther away?

28/06/2013 at 23:04

Hi FG - I thought it might be willowherb too, but that seems to spring up from nowhere in 10 seconds, and these have taken months to mature!  The only place this seems to have come up is in one particular part of one flower bed, but it doesn't look like any of the seeds that I threw in on a wing and a prayer.  I'll look up the plants you mentioned and I'll get another photo uploaded - I got the other half to take a few cos he's better at squinting than I am!  Thanks Fairygirl

28/06/2013 at 23:13

My immediate thought was Rosebay Willowherb (I've only just seen this post so I wasn't one of the 35! As FG says, it's difficult to tell before the flowers open.

28/06/2013 at 23:20

 More pictures of weed/plant 1 - I looked up euphorbia and loosestrife - this one looks a bit like milky loosestrife on the perennials site, but I think the thing that I planted (original picture 2) could be absolutely anything.  As you say, it will be easier when they flower although original pic 2 looks as if it's just going to keep going up and never achieve anything else.

Hope these pictures help with plant 1 and thank you for your help (yet again!)

28/06/2013 at 23:29

Flowers on pic 2 look like Antirhinum (slightly out of focus) or am I looking at the wrong plant. On second thoughts re pics 1 & 3 the flower bracts look too large for Rosebay Willowherb: need to wait until flowers open!

28/06/2013 at 23:37

Hi John - the thing I've been pulling out for years as rb willowherb has widdly little pink flowers and floppier leaves than these things, although I've just looked at some internet images of the stuff and they look more like my pictures than the things I've been digging up - so I'm probably wrong on every count.  Those are antirrhinum in pic 2, but the out of focus one at the front of the shot and the couple with no flowers on in front of the antirrhinums are small versions of the mystery thing.  So as you say, might well be a wait and see ...

29/06/2013 at 00:10

I was thinking Vervain or Willowherb?

29/06/2013 at 01:27

I do recognise the form and have looked through all my ref. books but still can't find the first thought it might be flax, but the flower buds are more a daisy-type flower, a smooth leaved yellow thistle or hawkweed. very interested to see what opens...have no real idea what plant you bought, could be many things, but not I think golden rod... few books show wilflowers in their bud stage...

29/06/2013 at 08:16


29/06/2013 at 09:19

I was digging lysimachia up all day yesterday, so I don't think either of them are that as I'd recognise it in my sleep (although there are lots of different sorts of golden rod I find to my horror).  Michael I'll  go and look up what vervain is.

29/06/2013 at 09:29

Vervain is a slender little plant, not either of these. Tiny mauve flowers

I would expect yellow dandelion-style flowers on the top pic but can't suggest a name. Some of the leaves are suggestive of willowherb but not the flower buds. 

The planted one hasn't any distinguishing features for me

29/06/2013 at 09:39

God Michael - Vervain known as verbascum or vibena and 200 sorts of it!  It's bad enough not knowing the names of anything without discovering they have three each.  The leaves looked different in the main though.

nutcutlet, please don't let it be yellow ... especially if it looks like a dandelion - and the planted one hasn't actually got any distinguishing features at all so you've described it beautifully!

29/06/2013 at 09:54

Vervain is Verbena officinalis Sara, nothing else.

Not a lot to it though I wouldn't want to get rid of it.


29/06/2013 at 10:06
nutcutlet wrote (see)

Vervain is Verbena officinalis Sara, nothing else.

Not a lot to it though I wouldn't want to get rid of it.


Find it useful do you Nut?

29/06/2013 at 10:10

nut you're  right about the flower buds not looking like willowherb. The etxra pix back that up I think.The second (original) pic is more loosestrife/willowherby. Not sure about that first one at all. 

29/06/2013 at 10:10

Definitely won't be getting rid of it then Dove, could be very useful. Vampires can be a bit of a pest and I've never found the appropriate treatment til now.


29/06/2013 at 11:35

Second one lookes like Phlox paniculata.

29/06/2013 at 11:42

Must be something that flowers fairly late in the season, can't see buds yet. Haven't got phlox, when do they flower?

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