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nodlisab

Just got a new propagator for xmas and cant wait to start sowing some seeds,what flowers can be started this month ?

sotongeoff

Not a lot to be honest-the fateful mistake is to think it is a new year I must get started-so your seeds germinate -it is the middle of January-what do you do next with them?

Experience tells me wait till March for most things-then you can give your seedlings better treatment-there is plenty of time and things always catch up

Sow now-and you have wasted time,energy and seed-anything that needs heat to germinate is probably a half-hardy annual-the clue is in the title-and wont be planted out until Mid-May at the earliest-so that is why you don't need to start now

Patience is a virtue after all

Having said all that-what flowers are we talking about?

You could sow sweetpea now, I always sow in the autumn but again anytime now and I've been growing them for years.

Also what about Cornflowers and Calendula, they could be sown now too perhaps.

I do have a covered back yard with perspex as a roof so I can keep everything frost free.

sotongeoff

None of those need a propagator though-they are hardy annual-so do not need heat, sowing indoors or under cover

kate1123

@nodlisab last christmas I had a propagator and started it going in January. As sotongeoff has already mentioned it is a bit of a problem as once the seedling were ready to be potted on I soon had a problem with lack of window sills.

I started with dahlias, lupins, delphiniums, gaura and euphorbias

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Atilla

I agree with Sotongeoff. The sunlight is just not enough yet and you will end up with leggy plants. The only seeds to germinate now are those difficult or lengthy ones such as Banana/musa, perhaps Canna etc.

nutcutlet

You should sow anything that needs a chill to start it off. Otherwise it's as sotogeoff says

Atilla
nutcutlet wrote (see)

You should sow anything that needs a chill to start it off. Otherwise it's as sotogeoff says

Very true, though he says in the OP that has a propagator. I was thinking of winter salad, Onion seed and even Pansies - he would need to stunt their growth in a coldframe after germination but I can see them working.

lisa69
nutcutlet wrote (see)

You should sow anything that needs a chill to start it off. Otherwise it's as sotogeoff says

Hi Nutcutlet, I was reading my Larkspur seeds today and its says they need a chill to germinate, I haven't had much luck with them before nor holly-hocks, does that mean I can sow them yet?

Good luck nodlisab let us know how you get on the with the new prop

Atilla

@Lisa69 - just sow the Larksprur seeds where you want them and some will come up in spring.

Matty2

Looking at seed packets I have, perrenial flower seeds can be grown from Jan using a heated propagator, just make sure you have somewhere for them to go once they have germinated.

sotongeoff

Dates for sowing on seed packets are deceptive-some are distributed all over Europe-so what might work in Southern Spain might not work in the North of Scotland

You have to provide the right conditions for growing plants on-germinating the seed is the relatively easy part.

 

hollie hock

I do agree it is about the growing on of seedlings when they have germinated and also about your location/climate that is the crucial thing and the space you have.

Having said that I started in January sowed some Calenduals and some wallflowers already, outside in a cold frame in a sheltered spot.

Other seeds I start off on in an unheated propagator on my kitchen window sill.

You can sow snap dragons indoors from Jan which I did last year but it is all about the space you have to grow them on and what the weather will be like. If you aren't  able to have a greenhouse then a cold frame is the next best thing

I always think it's best to look on the bright side so I'll be sowing a few seeds before the traditional advice just to see what happens

 

chrislobsterman

Use your propagator to start off stem cuttings from house plants abot 4" long cut just below a node ( see this weeks gardening  tips) You can put the cutting in a glass of water and keep in the propagator at low temperature in a light place. By the time you can start planting seeds (mid March earliest) you should have rooted cuttings. Try anything - at worst it can only fail.

nutcutlet

For anything germinated in the cold growing on won't be a problem. It's only germinating with heat that leaves you with a crisis of space and heating. I do have a heated propagator but I use it later on, take things in and out, try to stimulate a bit of action. The warm days cooler nights of an unheated greenhouse is very good for promoting germination with some seeds. A lot depends on what you're growing. Most of my experience is with hardy perennials, shrubs and trees. No heat required. If they don't get it naturally they don't need it from me.

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nodlisab

Thanks everyone for your advice,you never cease to amaze me. I will try some pansies and snap dragons to start.I have a greenhouse to grow them on , so hopefully will be ok.

ThaiGer

...sorry, but what is a "propagator"?,ThaiGer...

sotongeoff

Something like this -there are lots available--gives bottom heat to aid germination rooting etc-this one is electric-there are simpler ones which are just a seed tray with a perspex lid-

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n627/thedogcody/PR2000006214_card_lg.jpg

 

nutcutlet

Hi ThaiGer

In these cold areas we have plastic boxes with electric heating cables in the base to assist germination. Some seeds need more heat than we're likely to get naturally

ThaiGer

...okay, now I understand. Many people talk about this, I understand the functioning, but never I heard this word, thanks. I think, it's a clever invention. Greetings, ThaiGer

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