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10/06/2014 at 17:31

Does any one know what these are...there are loads of them under the camelia leaves .......each year there is an infestaion of cabbage worm in the garden i care for (i think they are cabbage worm..longish green type  caterpillars)...are these the eggs.....????

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/48834.jpg?width=307&height=350&mode=max

 

they are even under the eleagnus leaves.....i sprayed with detergent and water hoping it would lodge them off but nothing happened...if they are cabbage worm i want to nip them in the bud before they can do much damage......in fact whatever they are i am sure they need dealing with....any ideas?????

10/06/2014 at 17:37

What are cabbage worms?

10/06/2014 at 17:37

I will need to be very patient..i think there could be well over a hundred of them...hehehe

 

10/06/2014 at 17:38

They grow into those white butterflies nutcutlet....

 

10/06/2014 at 17:38

I'd rather find out what something is before I go around killing things indiscriminately.  

If you read this thread http://www.gardenersworld.com/forum/fruit-andamp-veg/red-currant--spikey-caterpillars/98011.html  you'll get what I'm on about. 

Let's try to identify them - anyone got any ideas? 

10/06/2014 at 17:39

Flowerbird- I've never heard of cabbage worms either - do you mean cabbage butterfly caterpillars?

10/06/2014 at 17:40

Well i just googled cabbage worm and they're cabbage white butterfly larvae

caterpillars to you and me.

10/06/2014 at 17:41

Those aren't cabbage white eggs, they're small and yellow, like these 

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/48835.jpg?width=400&height=350&mode=max

 

10/06/2014 at 17:42

Sorry - your post wasn't there when I asked. The small cabbage white has green caterpillars. The big one has hairy caterpillars I think 

10/06/2014 at 17:46

Hi Fairy

Over a hundred doesn't sound too much of an infestation. They will have been laid there to eat the leaves. I'd have towait and see what they turn into.  

10/06/2014 at 17:50

Having checked the RHS page on Camellia problems, I think these are the eggs of the cushion scale insect. 

If you click on the 5th picture along on this page http://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profile?PID=771 you'll see what I mean. 

10/06/2014 at 17:52

Spot on buddy boy...there are hundreds of them...they move onto all the bedding plants eventually and devour them....think i willl have to take as many leaves off the camelia as possible...even if it makes it look bald....i can prune back the eleagnus and then see whats what.....

thanks everyone i appreciate all the feedback....i recognise  the camelia caterpillars from last year all over the geraniums with there knives  and forks....

maybe i could put all the leaves in a wild spot further down the road and they can hatch there....

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/48836.jpg?width=480&height=350&mode=max

 

10/06/2014 at 17:57

Just check my last post before you do that - I think you may have a scale insect infestation on your camellia - the adult scale insects will be on the branches of the camellias.  They're pretty well disguised.  You'll need to treat the adults or they'll weaken your camellia.

You may well have cabbage white butterfly caterpillars on other plants in your garden, but what you have on your camellia is not them. 

10/06/2014 at 18:01

Those aren't caterpillars!  They're scale insect eggs!!!

Bashing head against brick wall type smiley needed!!! LOL 

10/06/2014 at 18:05

Hi nut 

Dove's right Flowerbird - the cabbage caterpillars will be on other plants - they're very common - but the eggs are as the pic she posted. I have quite a few here laying their little eggs. Different from what you have on the Camellia. Encourage the birds in for a tasty meal!  

10/06/2014 at 18:24

Hehehehe.....good chatting to you all....x x x

 

10/06/2014 at 19:02

One way to prove it - close up photo and see if they've got any legs 

10/06/2014 at 19:11

Batches of Cushion Scale eggs.

10/06/2014 at 19:13

I did check your link dove and it is cushion insect scale as you said.....the picture was the same as the one i posted....long oblong white things with no legs.....thanx...

have learnt alot from this post ...will look for cabbage larvae on other plants...

10/06/2014 at 19:30

Caterpillars have legs -  eggs don't.  Flowerbird says the things on her camellia don't have legs.

 

Cabbage white butterfly caterpillars are only likely to be on plants from the brassica family, cabbages, cauliflowers, kale etc and  a few ornamentals e.g. nasturtiums.  

 

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