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I have tried everything to rid my roses of black spot, I have roses in various beds with different soil types, drainage etc and once again every rose bush has been affected.  The flowers are gorgeous but the plants themselves are awful, has anyone out there got a remedy or method I may not have tried?

Salino

..this won't please you, but if I had that problem I would have to get rid of all those and plant disease resistant types in their place - there are many available now and there is no need to put up with these martyr's to black spot or mildew or resort to constant spraying....   alternatively do away with roses altogether and plant some nice shrubs like Hydrangeas... Hypericums...   ?  these days I don't put up with problems like that, but I know a lot of people still like to hold on to them, as they often have sentimental value.. and it's expensive to change...

I don't know which roses you have, but what works for me and my customers is this;

Remove all the affected leaves and burn and check for any fallen leaves under each rose and remove them. Water, feed and mulch every rose. Then spray every rose with fungicide, rose clear is as good as anything, AND spray the ground around each rose. Ensure good airflow around the roses as well.

The roses look very bare, but I find new growth appears very quickly. Check the new growth and flowers for any sign of reinfection and retreat if necessary following the same process.

I've done this numerous times and with patience and diligence it works.

Alternatively do as Salino has suggested and plant resistant varieties, but that isn't always practical or desirable, the choice is yours.

Thank you Salino and Dave for your responses, much appreciated. 

Woodgreen wonderboy

A local rose grower, who wins medals at RHS shows, told our local hortsoc that even disease resistant new roses only keep their resistance for say 12-15 years when mutations of the various diseases creep up on them. He would then advise replanting with even newer varieties. 

I also think it pays to do your very first spray very early in the season when you have not much more than bare branches and bud bumps. Follow Dave's advice above , but start very early. depending on how mild the winter has been, you might be thinking of early March. Go out and have a look then.

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wish i'd read dave's advice an hour ago..my honeysuckle had horrendous whitefly and blackspot..been spraying for couple of weeks, leaves were brown and crispy...just went mad and cut the lot down to 8 inches from the ground

treehugger80

been talking with David Austin Roses about mine and they recommend a high potash fertilizer and give your rose a good mulch (after watering) as it can be sign the rose (or anything else) is water stressed. make sure you removed and dispose (in a bin- not compost) the effected leaves

Thank you Woodgreen wonderboy

funnily enough my honeysuckle was next to rose and rose only had a couple of blackspots on odd leaf, removed and plant fine

Rosemummy, is your honeysuckle dry at the roots? Soak it regularly and mulch it, honeysuckle will recover from black spot and mildew, it just needs moisture and in this weather the ground is drying out very quickly. I soak mine once a week and keep the roots shaded, works every time, no need to spray.

Oops. Bit late Dave. Is now 8 inches tall. got fed up of whitefly literally covering it and didn't want them to spread, leaves were brown, crispy, fell off in my hand, just was seized by a desire to clean the area becore rose got covered, maybe it eill recover, if not I may replace with another that I actually know what variety it us!

Oh well, next year you should be ok, you'll get new growth in the next few weeks and some flowers, they don't mind a haircut and they are tough.

I do this sometimes, get fed up and go in a bit hard with the loppers!i' ll let you know

Regard it as therapy, a difficult day with the family can be solved in the garden.

It was quite therapeutic though had to have an extra shower as was itching so much afterwards, gave me a chance to tie rose in a bit better, too

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Good end to the day then. Always a good side to any problem.

Erica68

I looked for organic remedies to the black spot problem and came across

1part milk to 8 parts water

ditto but with vinegar

ditto with baking powder.

ditto all 3 mixed in.

It does occur to me that if these organic remedies are good then it would not keep saying to repeat the spraying!!!

Has anyone tried these methods?

Also what does "water stressed" mean? To much water or too little!

i only have a little blackspot on my roses erica but i may try that, until a few weeks ago i never used any spray even a bought organic one, just water, maybe bit of natural washing up liquid if aphids really bad, i bought an organic bug clear for my honeysuckle which was totally covered in whitefly, it didn't get rid of whitefly, as you see i cut honeysuckle right back, but it did kill all my sweetpeas which were next to it, i will not be using anything again! i'm going to go back to  no products and  let insects do the work for me or if desperate will mix that formula up

Erica68

actually, rosemummy, I was wondering if it is a serious suggestion or someone being a bit silly. I know so little about gardening I would not know the difference and I am hoping someone on this forum does.

 

I had some black things growing on nasturtiums and I got rid of those with little jets of water so I was looking for an equally plant friendly answer to those black spots on my rose.

Erica68

Thank you Buddyboy. My concern about the watering comes from the fact that my attempt at daffodils failed dismally due to the rainfall on top of the fact that it is a north facing garden and heavy clay soil. Even the squirrels did not like my daffodils and took one bite and threw them aside..

I water every third day because I read it somewhere and it all looks reasonable so far.

I do find my roses a problem as they seem to be the prima donnas of the garden wanting so much attention or they go mouldy and spotty. I have now got 3 Kew and they are brilliant and prolific.