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28/06/2013 at 10:34

Bought a myself a pricey ...... £21.50....(well it is for me) armandii appleblossom clematis, good and healthy from a good garden centre.

I would estimate it is approx 3 years old, and well established in its big pot.

I planted it approx a month ago next to a dublin climbing rose with a hope that the clematis will grow and scramble up and over it.

on checking on it, i noticed all the bottom leaves have gone......possibly slugs, so went out night after night and found a few in and around the clematis , but not actually on it....r.i.p...sorted.

Then yesterday in good light I noticed that the growing tips  were frazeled black, and where the leaves had been been there was little blackened bits.

Now those of you who have seen my previous posts, will know that I frequently rant on about my lovely now etsablished pyracantha's having a bad case of FIREBLIGHT...yuk!

my new clematis, can they suffer with the dreaded blight, I know it's not a pear, but I have seen similar blackening with pear midge? (on pears of course)

Any ideas on how I can rescue my clematis please!

 

28/06/2013 at 12:51

At least Clematis cannot get Fireblight which is basically systemic to Rosacease.

Also C. armandii is not normally affected by Clematis Wilt but it really does sound like that nasty thing.. It could also be wind damage or even the molluscs having rasped away the covering of the base of the stem so the stem dies back.

I hope you planted it deeply so that is can re-shoot from below soil level.

I would be tempted to cut back the affected stems to ground level and feed it with somethiong to encourage new growth.

Best of  luck with it.

28/06/2013 at 13:07

Take Berghill's advice and be patient.   I've known clematis do a Lazarrus and come back to life after 2 years with no sign of growth.

You can buy specialist clematis food but I would also give it an instant tonic of liquid tomato food which your rose will like too.

28/06/2013 at 14:00

Right guys!   good to know clematis cannot get fireblight, and thank you for your help.

just to give you a better picture of things.

1st. the clematis is at a approx height of 6' and the big leaves at the top are in good condition,

2nd. it consists of two strong growing stems with all its healthy leaves  still intact at approx 1' from the base, and upwards.

It is the middle section that the leaves have gone. (eaten as I thought) but! looking closer at the arms that are left, these appear to be crispy blackened ends and this blackening has took place at the growing tips????

I would say that apart from this problem, the plant is healthy and in my opinion is not suffering wilt, which I have witnessed on other clematis's that Iv'e had.

wind damage...No! it is interwined with the established rose and very well protected from wind burn, or wind damage.

as regards the planting, Yes! it is in deep, and as you say i do give some tomatoe food as a treat.

 

28/06/2013 at 14:07

In that case, just gently remove the damaged leaves, as long as the stem is ok and wait and see!

29/06/2013 at 09:45

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/26467.jpg?width=370&height=350&mode=max

Iv'e managed to get apiccy of the blackened tips of my armanii apple blossom clematis,in the hope that someone may have seen this blackening problem before or on similar plants and can offer me some help/solution.

29/06/2013 at 09:46

Anyone creosoted a fence nearby?

29/06/2013 at 10:18

No, almost looks like frost nipped, but we haven't had any where I live and as I have said the clematis is well protected by the rose.

Plus my other nine or so clematisis are fine.

29/06/2013 at 10:27

Does not look like Wilt either,  very strange.

29/06/2013 at 10:51

I'm wondering if I should lift it and put it in a spot where I can keep my eye to it,

because being threaded through the rose means it's not easy to get to.

 

 

29/06/2013 at 13:05

I think I would be going back to the place where I bought it, taking a dying leaf with me and asking ofr their opinion. Unless you have had it some time they should replace it if it has a Virus problem.

29/06/2013 at 14:57

Mmm! not a bad idea Berghill.

 

29/06/2013 at 20:54

I posted about blackened growing tips on my armandii apple blossom a month or so ago:

http://www.gardenersworld.com/forum/problem-solving/clematis-armandii---what-is-the-problem/81787.html

I still don't know the problem, I pulled off the black growing tips and some of the buds by the leaves are getting bigger so I'm hoping it will start growing again.  I put it down to cold winds as it is by a windy side passage to our house but your post suggests otherwise.  It does now have a few brown leaves so perhaps I'll go out and have a more thorough check!

29/06/2013 at 21:43

Armandii are not the hardiest of clematis and wind damage sounds a good possibility. They like good drainage and don't cope well with waterlogging, but if your is with a healthy rose, it can't be that. I have a small one that's been in the ground in a very sheltered position for a couple of years and it is still pretty small. They have been grown on in the nursery in near-perfect conditions and it is a shock when they have to cope with a real garden.

29/06/2013 at 21:47

I'm thinkingof getting rid of mine.It's had some fantastic years but over the last 2 or 3 it's had a lot of winter damage and all the dead growth is still way up in a thuja never to be reached. It's lost too much growth in winter to flower properly for the last 2 years so I think it's goodbye

29/06/2013 at 21:53

It seems to me that the trouble with evergreen clematis is that they weren't really intended by nature to cope with our climate so we're always fighting their tenderness. Same with trachelospermum jasmines. I have two and they are both unhappy, although they have a relatively sheltered position. 

29/06/2013 at 22:12

yes, they're wonderful plants but I'd rather have a happy plant

30/06/2013 at 11:43

Mmm! sounds like the same problem Lunar jim.

I'm convinced that mine is not wind burn because when i planted this fella, I took this into account and made sure it was sheltered.

My concern is, that I do have some fireblight on my patch, but it's been said that clematis's do not suffer this appaling disease.

when I get chance, I will take a smple back to the garden centre and see what they think.

Just to mention again, I have more young clematis's close by and they are FINE!

its certainly a puzzle.

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