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Dahlias

Hi all.  I have a dilemma on my hands.  My dahlias are being savaged by a mysterious pest. It is not slugs, I've checked for caterpillars and cannot find any, does anyone know what it could be?  Holes are being left in the leaves, some even savaged, the holes look like the wings of a lacewing.  Thanks

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  • sotongeoffsotongeoff Posts: 9,802

    A guess -not slugs or caterpillars you say, bit early for earwigs they usually go for flowers-have you any pigeons that visit the garden?-they do go for brassicas-is the damage overnight or in the daytime?

  • mdw84mdw84 Posts: 105

    I have the occasional pigeon that visits the garden, but not where the dahlias are, they tend to stay at the bottom of the garden where the feeders are and that way they are a safe distance from the cat and English BullMastiff.  I'm not really sure when the damage happens, I've just noticed it over the last couple of weeks, if it's any help the same is happening to the delphiniums nearby.

  • BobTheGardenerBobTheGardener Posts: 11,384

    Delphiniums and dahlias are probably slugs and snails favourite snacks, so double-check for them.  They don't always leave obvious trails.  When you say the holes are like the wings of a lacewing, do you mean the structure is intact, but the green material between the veins is being eaten?  If so, it could be a sever leaf miner attack.  A photo would really help.

    A trowel in the hand is worth a thousand lost under a bush.
  • kate1123kate1123 Posts: 2,815

    I have just been out and done a slug/snail run, one of my dahlias had 3 snails on it munching away, but not any longerimage

    Have you checked for cutworms?

  • mdw84mdw84 Posts: 105

    Leaf miner sounds more like it, never heard of cutworms (I must research them)

    BOB - yes the structure is intact but green material is being eaten,that is some of the damage, the other damage looks like caterpillar but no signs.

    It's definitely not slugs or snails, there have been signs but I do checks am and pm, and use slug bait and traps.

  • BobTheGardenerBobTheGardener Posts: 11,384

    If it is insect damage ike leaf miners or cutworms/caterpillars and you are not averse to non-organic controls, give them a spray with a systemic insecticide which will be absorbed and spread throughout the plants.  Provado ultimate bug killer is a good one.  Systemics are the only things that will work against miners, which eat the leaves from the inside, so contact insecticides are useless againt those.

    A trowel in the hand is worth a thousand lost under a bush.
  • mdw84mdw84 Posts: 105

    Thanks all, one final thing, would it be worth removing the damaged leaves?

  • mdw84mdw84 Posts: 105

    Latest update.

    I've been out this morning and found out what the problem is, "earwigs".  I shouldn have thought more about it really, as at the weekend I found a nest of them in a solar light near the affected plants.  I have removed the leaves and the solar lights as they all had earwigs in them.  Any ideas of how to keep these pests away?

  • sotongeoffsotongeoff Posts: 9,802

    So one of the things I discounted might be the culprit-the classic remedy is an upturned flower pot filled with straw atop a cane-they hide in there during the day as they are nocturnal-so just empty them out and do with them what you will-they are not all bad and do some good in the garden

    It wont get rid of them but at least it gives you some control

  • mdw84mdw84 Posts: 105

    They seem to be in abundance this year, I was digging over ther garden yesterday and there was a nest under my pieris.  In the two solar lights near the dahlias, both had nests in so they been moved into the wildlife garden.  Also the amount of red ant nests in my garden in unbelievable, a total of 6 so far this year.

     

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