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This year we have removed a very long and high tired looking leylandii hedge. We have replaced it with a beech hedge which is not very high yet. The problem is that we have a neighbour with two dogs, and although generally well controlled, they do escape in to our garden. Is there a cheap solution to blocking the base of the hedge until the new one has grown sufficiently to provide a barrier? 

WillDB

Timber posts with stock proof mesh perhaps?

Obelixx

Chicken wire and posts along the length.   Various widths available so easy to find one for the height you need.  Depending on how sturdy you make the posts it can stay there and the beech will send stems thru it or you can remove it once the beech hedge has thickened.

Mark56

What sort of breed are they..?  digging terriers will exhaust most options unless you blockade down to a decent depth 

Fairygirl

Just a thought, but, unless it's the neighbour's hedge that's been removed, surely it's up to them to put a fence up to keep their dogs in their own garden?  

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WillDB

...If only the same thing applied to cats, FG. 

*Quietly places pound coin in Hostafan's jar*

Thank you for your comments. It was my hedge that was removed. I am loathe to spend much more money as removing the oldhedge and replanting with beech was quite an expense. Is it their responsibility to keep the dogs out? .

Fairygirl
WillDB says:

...If only the same thing applied to cats, FG. 

*Quietly places pound coin in Hostafan's jar*

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 ah - quite so Will.....

Carmel - they've had the benefit of your solid boundary keeping their dogs in their garden. They now don't have that, so yes, I'd say it's up to them to keep their dogs in their garden, not you  

Legally yes, it is the owner's responsibility to keep their dog on their property (as is true for most other animals but not cats) unless you have a specific obligation in your deeds - sometimes property can be sold by farmers with the obligation to maintain stock-proof fencing being transferred. 

Assuming that you don't have such an obligation, then even though the hedge that was removed belonged to you, you are not required to put any fence back if you chose not to. In practical terms, it will be years before a beech hedge is inherently dog proof, so they need to take measures themselves appropriate to their dogs - as Mark points out, different dogs need different levels of control to keep them in. One of mine can jump over a 5 foot fence without breaking his stride, if he wants to. Our fences are 2m high to keep him in, but he doesn't dig and he's too big to fit through the holes. Our neighbour's terrier can get through teeny gaps to turn up outside my door. I just keep taking him back. They know the risk they are taking by not keeping him in - in the end it's your neighbour's dogs' safety that is in question. Around here (farming country) an unaccompanied dog is very likely to be shot. Where you are it may be different - perhaps getting run over on the road is more of a threat. so keep telling them - take the dogs back, phone them and ask them to come and get the dogs but keep going on until they do something. Don't get into a discussion about whose fence it is, just keep pointing out when the dogs escape.

If you can't get anywhere by talking to them then you can go to the Council. Essentially if it's off their land unaccompanied then the dog is deemed to be not under proper control, which is a criminal offence. The Dog Control officer will visit and tell them the rules in the first instance. If it keeps happening the dogs could eventually be removed and put down.

Good point will.  Thank you also raisin girl for the legal info. I'll save my money and try the softly softly approach first! 

Fairygirl

I think it's a slightly tricky situation Carmel. Your neighbours might take the stance that, since you've removed what they see as 'the boundary', it's up to you to put one back, completely disregarding the fact that it's your hedge, to do with what you want  

Good luck with it  - I hope they see that the dogs, and where they go, are totally their responsibility, not yours or anyone else's. Let us know how you get on anyway  

Obelixx

I agree with FG.  You took down the existing hedge, knowing there were dogs next door.  It is up to you to live with the consequences and take precautions to protect your garden and plants from unwanted visitors.   I would certainly take dim view if our neighbours took down the fences between us and then complained that our dogs were harrying their horses and cattle.

A chicken or even a stronger wire mesh fence won't cost a lot and will make for good neighbourly relations which can be beyond price.

Dovefromabove

I agree ... there's a legal position and a  sort of moral one   ... I think that, unless I'd talked it over with the neighbours first and they'd been aware of my plans and prepared perhaps to meet me halfway with fencing their dogs in, I'd feel better putting up some posts and wire netting myself.

If the dogs are tunnellers they'd probably have found their way through the Leylandii earlier, so I presume they're not that type of escapee and a wire netting fence will do the job.  

Thanks everyone. I gave my neighbors 5 months notice of my intention, the hedge was removed and replanted at the end of March this year.  A big loss of privacy for us all but it had to be done. I might try the chicken wire. Here‘s hoping the hedge grows fast!!! 

Dovefromabove

OK, they knew what was happening then   Good luck with the chicken wire 

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I think most dogs would find a way through a hedge if they really wanted to. I've seen my cocker get through what looked like a solid wall of brambles when he got the scent of something, oblivious to the thorns. We spent the next hour or so taking the stuff out of his coat, when he eventually came back of course. :)

plant pauper

As a dog owner, it's up to me to keep my dogs in.

I removed a huge leylandii hedge but immediately (well a week later) replaced it with a stout fence. I still get occasional cheeky visitors creeping underneath from next door but then so do they!  We have chicken wire stapled over the biggest gaps as the fence becomes a hedge further up but we're fairly chilled about it. If his dogs started doing any damage or c******g everywhere that would change. I'd have a polite word...then a less polite one.

My neighbours and I were so happy to see the back of the hedge I don't think we'd have cared if Belfast Zoo had passed through. 

Fairygirl

Sorry - but I agree with Ppauper. You let them know about the hedge removal, and it's up to them to put something in place to keep their dogs in.  

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