Dovefromabove wrote "Frank my mistake I didn't see the word 'take' in the first sentence of your second paragraph. Mea culpa - should have put my glasses on."
Not so much a matter of eyesight as a faulty punctuation in the misread post, Dove.
Frank wrote "Forget the four in one take the advice given by Verdun and Dove leave it to over winter then start again in spring."
Should have read something like "Forget the four in one. Take the advice given by Verdun and Dove: leave it to overwinter, then start again in spring."
When reading posts on this forum, as a former teacher of English, I can't help cringing at the missing comma in such comments as: "Lovely Verdun" rather than "Lovely, Verdun". No doubt Verdun is a lovely person in his own right (even reaching perfection after shaving) but the poster probably meant his garden / flowers / photos etc looked lovely, not the man himself.
No hard feelings, Frank.
My favourite manual on this topic of punctuation is Lynne Truss's book Eats, Shoots & Leaves. The Zero Tolerance Approach to Punctuation. Let me quote from the back cover:
“A panda walks into a cafe. He orders a sandwich, eats it, then draws a gun and fires two shots in the air.
"Why?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes towards the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.
"I'm a panda," he says, at the door. "Look it up."
The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation.
"Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves.”
So, punctuation really does matter, even if if is only occasionally a matter of life and death.