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06/08/2013 at 16:18

Both are 6-8 feet tall and still growing



06/08/2013 at 16:31

Top plant looks like  a sambusca, which is part of the elderberry family, I have one in my garden.

its a lovely light and airy bush, with lovely clusters of black berries on , I'm not sure if you can eat them, anyway I like it because being black and at the back of my plot  shows of other flowering plants in front of it.

you can chop it right down to the ground in autumn and up it comes again in spring with new fresh leaves.

sorry not sure about the other one but it looks a good plant for insects.

hope this is helpful 


06/08/2013 at 16:38

ive got a sambuca too, grows quick and flowers in around June (white). really nice plant.

06/08/2013 at 17:22

I find it hard to tell a heliopsis from a helianthus, 

06/08/2013 at 17:30

Given the height I would suggest that the second one is Rudbeckia Herbstonne

06/08/2013 at 18:00

I also think that they are rudbeckia's

07/08/2013 at 08:36

Thankyou for your help.

The Sambucas hasnt ever flowered or had berries. Its growing fast this year though.

The yellow 'whateveritis'  began flowering last week and will continue right to the end of Autumn.


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