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28/02/2014 at 12:49

I have ordered 2 quince

1 is a 7ft tall Vranja variety and the other is a 4ft tall Chaenomeles Fire Dance

Now my initial plan was to put the 7ft by the front corner of my shed, my shed is 5ft higher than my patio and the soil is retained with gravel boards. When I first looked online for info on quince, I didn't find anything that said the tree was going to grow to a behemoth size. So I can't plant it by my shed   The 4ft was going in a half whisky barrel by the kitchen door, but now I'm thinking that it should go in the ground where the 7ft was originally destined to go.   So how easy would it be to keep the Fire Dance to a neat bush? Can I risk planting it by the gravel boards without risk of the roots destroying them? There is a 4ft retaining wall where my garden is located, could I plant the Vranja close to this wall, or again would the roots laugh in my face and bring it crashing down?   And why aren't I getting any emails when I get a reply
28/02/2014 at 12:58

Sorry Duncan i can't help with the Quince but you will probably find that your e-mails will arrive in a few days time. There must be a glitch as i get e-mails even when i untick the box!

If you go to your settings (top right) and click Forum Settings. you will see your options and you may have to set a default to on.

28/02/2014 at 13:04

Chaenomeles may be pruned to keep it within bounds. We have a lovely one which is tied in to a trellis and thought it is 6 feet tall, it is no more than 2 inches wide at any point. Don't get much fruit on it, but it does flower well.

Vranja is prone to suckering as well, by the way. BUT I cannot see any reason for it to damage your wall as the roots are fairly shallow and not that spreading. There are no roots coming from our Queeches Prolific Quince tree under the lawn near to it.

28/02/2014 at 13:08

Berghill, Thanks.

I may put the Chaenomeles by the kitchen window after all then

28/02/2014 at 13:15

I agree with Berghill - chaenomeles can be trained to a wall,d.ZG4&psig=AFQjCNHSopXrySCAhwepKg106v6Le5l4Iw&ust=1393679494573319

As for Vranja, you can grow it as a free-standing specimen standard tree, or train it against the wall as an espalier .

As for notifications, I hadn't had any for ages then a week ago I started getting them, but all in one lump every afternoon.  Hey ho! 

28/02/2014 at 13:24

Dove, top bloke

Don't like the look of the picture though, looks a bit tatty.

If I grow the Vranja as a specimen tree, will that help stunt its growth? I actually don't mind it sitting behind the wall.

If it's not raining Sunday, I'll take some pics of the garden layout and you'll see why I'm not too sure about anything

28/02/2014 at 13:55

We have what I think is Serbian Gold in our garden, growing as a bush interspersed by an early-flowering clematis.  It doesn't fruit much, but looks lovely.

28/02/2014 at 14:37
Duncan Blackwell wrote (see)

Dove, top bloke .............

Erm............. I'm a girl 
Duncan Blackwell wrote (see)


Don't like the look of the picture though, looks a bit tatty..........

I think it's probably been there a while - but I've seen some very smartly espaliered chaenomeles - just can't find any pictures of them 

28/02/2014 at 14:52
Dove, don't worry, nobodies perfect
28/02/2014 at 16:57

If you grow something as a specimen tree it does the opposite of stunt its growth.

It allows it to grow to it's full potential, usually so that you can see it at it's best from every angle.

28/02/2014 at 19:08
Duncan Blackwell wrote (see)
Dove, don't worry, nobodies perfect



28/02/2014 at 19:36
01/03/2014 at 17:35

Your Vranja will be grafted so it depends what rootstock it's grafted onto. The rootstock is most likely Quince A but you should check with the supplier. I'd be surprised if you had any problems with it. The suckers if you do get them won't be Vranja though so bear that in mind if you think you can propagate it to give some away. You will be able to but you'd need to graft some Vranja on to the sucker. 

By the way, they are both called Quince but they are as different as apples and pears and need different treatment. The Vranja needs a long growing season and is not a good one for Northern gardens which is why I didn't get that one. If you're in the North then it will need a south facing wall and protection, but it supposed to be a good one.

01/03/2014 at 17:53
Ranunculus wrote (see)

We have what I think is Serbian Gold in our garden, growing as a bush interspersed by an early-flowering clematis.  It doesn't fruit much, but looks lovely.

I've got Serbian Gold, are the fruits on yours round and fairly smooth or are they pear shaped and nobly?

This is mine.


02/03/2014 at 17:51
I have a south facing garden so it's pretty good
03/03/2014 at 17:45

Great, I wish I could grow Vranja, it's very popular. Never mine I got a good crop of the SB last year considering it was Year 1.

03/05/2014 at 21:30

Jim Mcd - doesn't have any fruits, ever.  Maybe it isn't Serbian Gold then? I'll post a photo soon.

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