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05/02/2014 at 12:02

Hello,

I'm hoping someone can help me. We are renting our house which has two large gardens but no outside tap! Last summer I had to ferry lots water to and fro, because our soil is basically sand (old heathland).

So I thought I could install a water butt in the back garden. Now because we are renting we would obviously have to ask the landlords permission and leave it here when we eventually leave. Does anyone else use one that they don't connect to a downpipe? I am wondering if you could use a giant funnel with a mesh in to stop leaves etc getting in? would these be affective or a waste of time. (thinking I can take it with us if we move)

Any help would be much appreciated, I want to capture some of this persistant rain, so I can use it later in the year

MM

 

 

05/02/2014 at 12:13

MM

I don't really think you would collect much water with a big funnel have you thought of using grey water from say your washing machine connected to a extension pipe and into your water butt? or a bucket by the back door and fill that with grey water and fill your watter butt located out in your garden (as a half way house) this is just a thought even mashing machine pipe out the kitchen window into a water but.

 

Have you asked the owner of the house to put a outside tape in for you??

It's only going to improve the look of your house with more flower, plants

 

clueless

05/02/2014 at 12:18

speaking as a landlord, I'd have no objection to our tenant correctly installing a water butt to a downpipe, providing it was left when they leave. I'd approach your landlord, or agent with a politely worded letter / email / phone call to let them know you're asking as you're keen to keep the garden ( their garden ) as nice as you can.

05/02/2014 at 12:24

Hi Clueless,

Unfortunately the washing machine is wedged under the worktop and there is no room for a pipe either on top or alongside, good idea though. In the summer I was collecting water waiting for the hot tap to run hot and putting it straight outside, so I could do that all year and pop into the waterbut to store. What about water after I have washed up? can you put that in? I guess you'd have to strain the bits out?

One of the problems I have is I have 4 blueberries in pots and our water is alkaline so I am wondering if I left the grey water in the butt whether it would somehow neutralise?

I haven't asked him about an outside tap, I didn't even think about it ;( not sure if he would though, he's not keen on doing work unless it's an emergency!

 

 

05/02/2014 at 12:36

Hi Hostafan1,

Thank you, I will talk to the agent as see what they say. We have already done a lot of work on the garden (it looked like a fly tipping area) and they do seem pleased. Hopefully they will agree as it won't cost them anything.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

05/02/2014 at 12:50

even so MM to replace the down pipe after would only cost £10-20

Yes you can use your washing up water

05/02/2014 at 12:54

I think it's time for a quick phone call to the agents Thank you I will collect the washing water will it be ok for blueberries, if I mix it with the rainwater?

 

 

05/02/2014 at 15:28
Personally I would only use 100% rainwater on the Blueberries as they don't like alkaline conditions at all.
05/02/2014 at 17:28

I agree with clueless; it won't cost much to replace the downpipe when you leave (as long as you don't live in a 3 storey house), then you could take the water butt with you. Check the price of downpipe first though, there are some fancy ones that may be pricey.

05/02/2014 at 23:59

you still need the landlord's permission before carrying out any work, even if you intend to put it back to the original condition before you leave. To  install a cut off point to install a downpipe on someone else's property ( even with the best of intentions) is , technically " causing actual criminal damage". Speak to your landlord, or his /her /their agent. Don't get yourself into bother.

 

Edd
06/02/2014 at 00:46

Sometimes the end stop on the gutter falls off and the water just pours out over the end . Just saying as it has happened a lot to me. if you know what i mean.

06/02/2014 at 01:03

Make sure the butt has a close-fitting lid.  Then the water will remain clear.

06/02/2014 at 21:58

I use an old plastic bin with the lid upside down to collect water for blueberry bushes, it's surprising how quickly the lid fills with rain water after a good down pour and then dunk a watering can in, each time the pots want watering. .

07/02/2014 at 12:47

Don't worry Hostafan, I won't do anything without checking first.

Zoomer44, I am intrigued by your bin idea. Do you have a hole in the bin lid, to let water filter down into the bin? or do you just collect water in the lid? I was considering trying a bin with the lid unturned and maybe using some mesh over the whole to stop things falling inside.

07/02/2014 at 16:12

If you are using old blue plastic chemical containers, they have one or two plug holes in the lid.  Cut the lid off just below the rim and turn it over.  Remove the plug, place the lid on the container and it will fill.  You don't need to cover it with anything as the plug hole is slightly high so only water goes in.

When the container is full you can just replace the plug in the plug-hole. If the water is always covered the water will stay clear and sweet from year to year.

07/02/2014 at 21:05

I just collect water in the lid but I get what Welshonion is saying. There is a raised ridge in the lid which you could easily drill holes in and only water would seep into the bin.

When the bins full just put the lid on the right way and then there's no over flow.  

10/02/2014 at 16:06

I bought myself a large black plastic bin today. I've upturned the lid on top and drilled a few holes near the top, so any muck will stay in the lid and I can tip it out. It's a bit of an experiment but much cheaper than a water butt for the time being. Thanks for all your help.,

12/02/2014 at 16:50

Though you might like a mini update. The bin/waterbutt is working and collecting water.

12/02/2014 at 17:52

Well - there's plenty of it about at the moment MM 

12/02/2014 at 19:02

Glad to help

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