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29/08/2013 at 21:41

 I have just had new neighbours move into next door.they had 1 labby which was fine untill they bought another so as to breed from them.Now they bark all day and most of the night.I love dogs and have a dalmatian myself that has never barked as from a pup.But now my peice and tranquility have been shattered.

29/08/2013 at 22:41

Contact your local Environmental Health department and ask their advice.

KEF
29/08/2013 at 22:49

You might benefit from info' from poster Tina Turner..check Morning/  Evening Forkers threads, she's had this prob for ages and has now sorted it, sure she'll advise you.

30/08/2013 at 02:00

Hi, I have had a sim prob with labradoodles.  They guy had a bitch first, then bought a dog to breed. Ha, hasn't realised about F1 hybrids! They used to bark all of the time, but now bark rarely. One will egg the other on, even if the first was taught not to bark.  There are many remedies, depending on the dogs and the owner.  Have you pointed out to the owner that this is disturbing your peace, (and possibly causing your dog to bark back?)  If you are friendly with your neighbour, you may be able to sort a remedy with him/her.  If a new neighbour, as you say, try to get friendly first, before you complain.  There is nothing worse than enmity between neighbours.  See if you can go walks together with all of the dogs, so they get to know each other, and so do you people.  Then bring up the problem barking with them.  They mey be so used to it that they don't hear it anymore, or it annoys them so much that they repeatedly tell the dogs off without really addressing the prob.  The latter sounds most likely, as if the dogs baark for attention, they are getting it, even if only to be told off.  As a responsible dog owner, you know this. There are many reasons to get the owners onside, but the main one is that you need them to let YOU discipline their dogs when they are away (if they leave them outside), and you all need to decide on a resolution that will result in having friendly neighbours.  There is nothing worse than bad neighbours, as you have to live with them every single day of your life, unlike family or friends!  You CHOOSE friends, you put up with family, but neighbours can really make your life heaven or hell.  I've had both types, and diplomacy is (usually) the best answer.  You already have dogs in common, even if they are the problem.

It is quite possible that the barking annoys the owners too.  Do they shout at the dogs a lot, and is that as annoying as the barking?  What do the dogs bark at?  Did they have the bitch first? (I'd like to bet they did, as bitches are less territorial, so less likely to guard all perimeters.)  Many dogs bark out of boredom, and this can be quite common in playful labs.  They are not a 'Guard Dog' as some other breeds, which bark to repel intruders.  Are the dogs given toys, chews etc when the owners leave them for work etc?  Labs are very greedy dogs, with a very strong need to chew.  They are also very friendly dogs, very gregarious with humans, and intelligent.  Although unaggressive, they need constant stimulation, and without it will develop unwanted behaviours.

Unfortunalely, these days, many people have discovered that dogs can be a 'status symbol', and the price of some dogs has risen sharply.  So pet owners have thought that they can 'have a go' at breeding.  'I've got a nice bitch, she's got papers, I won't pay the stud fees so I'll get a dog of my own to breed from her, and maybe charge other people to use the dog'.  Thus a 'puppy farm' starts.  These people haven't looked into breeding, demand, genetics, etc, or even into the rudimentaries of training thier owwn dogs before they breed puppies. Adult dogs train puppies, just as we train our kids.  So if there are bad behaviors there to start, which were taught by humans, they will carry on.  But the cycle CAN be broken.

I'm sorry, I went off on a tirade. I am a dog groomer, and see some horrible examples of bad behavior in dogs that could be prevented or cured with a little thought and understanding from the owners.  And can give examples of owners who have changed dogs lives and temperaments forever.

I think I should edit this before I click send, as I went off into a tirade about irresonsable dog owners, but the wine kicked in, so I'll send an

30/08/2013 at 11:28

the owner is a shooting man and has the dogs are working dogs so you would think that he could train them not to bark.they are left to their own devices throughout the day,and all day long they are fighting and barking at each other.i do understand that the breed is a very active one simular to collies, so they must get board.the other problem is that they have metal water dishes and no sooner that they are put out for the dog's,the dog,s turn the bowls over and toss then around the garden which is concrete,so you can imagine the noise being made.i dont think i will contact the owner as he looks like a real thug.i'm concerned also as to the dogs welfare as they have no water all day as they tip it over first thing.they have bee suffering through the hot weather that we had. i have told the owner about this but no action was taken.i have introduced myself to him and even invited him around for a drink when he moved in,but i have seen how agressive he is with his teenage kid,s.

As for my dog they cannot see her as the fence is high and she does not bark at all.Phew think i need a drink now

30/08/2013 at 11:45

Diddy I'd contact the council first re the noise and find out your position - I'm sure you can do it without 'him' knowing it's you. Tell them you've tried the friendly approach. Also how about the RSPCA? Tell them you're concerned about the welfare of these dogs. Again- I expect you could do it anonymously.

30/08/2013 at 12:34

As Fairygirl said, have had an ongoing problem with neighbour's dog for nigh on 4 years.  Did contact Environmental Dept at Council and first time was told to keep a log, but that was easier said than done.  Phoned again a few weeks back and could have made a formal complaint, anonymously if I wanted, but decided to try and deal with it myself.  Didn't confront them as I was sort of aware of what the reaction could be but wrote a very polite letter, starting by apologising for having to do so.  Outcome wasn't too good, but the dog has stopped.  3 weeks now and it's bliss.  So Diddy, don't leave things to fester.  Deal with it now otherwise it will make your life unbearable. 

30/08/2013 at 13:49

Leaving dogs unattended without adequate water (or shade?) is something that the RSPCA would be very interested in. Each area is an independent body and is desperate for funding so, if you could put a little donation into the letter, they would be  happy to pay Mr Thug a visit, no names mentioned.

30/08/2013 at 14:34

I know the dogs are a pain in the a... with thier barking and fighting so if something came back to him as regards a complaint,then he might just put two and two toghether.Also is the fact that he owns shot gun is a worrying thing,you often hear how people lose the plot and go ape with a gun.

 

 

                                 

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30/08/2013 at 21:08

I take it you aren't his only neighbour so why should he automatically think of you to blame?

Plus, if you feel threatened by his behaviour and/or possession of a shotgun I would go to the police and ask them to record you concerns, should anything happen to you. We aren't living in Dodge City and he can't act as if we are.

31/08/2013 at 12:47

I do live next door to him.

31/08/2013 at 12:49

What I meant to say was, are there just the two of you with nobody else for miles around, like me and my neighbour, or could he not know who had reported him because there are other neighbours close by?

31/08/2013 at 13:46

Diddy, if you do nothing for fear of reprissal, then you are going to live with what you have for however long you or the neighbour stay there.  I can't tell you how much I wish I had dealt with my problem sooner.  Yes, the owner was very unpleasant and it unnerved me but at least I did it.  If it was still going on, I would have no qualms in taking the complaint further, regardless of the consequences. We are all entitled to live in peace and quiet, with the normal neighbourly noise and should not have that destroyed by one person's unreasonable behaviour.

Several neighbours moaned to me about the doggie problem, but no-one would do anything.  Bet they're now glad I did!! Apathetic lot.

31/08/2013 at 18:53

they were at it from five oclock this morning,then he must of come down and was yelling at the top of his voice telling then to shut up.Maybe he must be getting p....d off with the racket that they are making.I was'nt sure which was worse,him or the dog's.

31/08/2013 at 20:10

I feel sorry for you,I have a similar situtation but not as bad.Its the owner at fault not the dogs and since you live next door and he has a shotgun its not an easy thing resolve without bringing in the the authorities.

31/08/2013 at 21:13

I simply dont want to upset the family as they seem quite nice,it's just the other side of him i dont like.He claims he's a landscape gardener,that's a joke.I've been offering him surplus plants since he moved in,but refuses them.

01/09/2013 at 12:28

He is realy getting my back up.

 

            

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02/09/2013 at 09:48

Exactly Break!  I would hear the dog start and my heart would sink and eventually, I would come in from the garden or have to close doors and windows. You have to do something positive for your own sanity and peace of mind, regardless if you upset anyone. I met my neighbour for the first time on Friday and we were polite to each other, albeit a bit strained.  I can live with that.

02/09/2013 at 11:51

tina.. get yours self one of those dog repellent sound thingys.. cant remember name of them.. it gives out high pitch tone with only dogs can hear ... they are hand held for about a £5 or youcan get ones for in trees which have a range of about 40ft.. so that should stop them.. just put in search ..dog deterrent.. and you should find it.. put it in ya garden near their side and the dogs should shut up..

the hand held ones run on batteries and we got one for nipper when on his bikes.. as dog owners never controlled their dogs around him.. so now he can just push the button and they run off.... very fast.. he feels much safer now.. and hubby strapped it to his handlebars..

i cant stand people that allow their dogs to bark all the time..drives me mad.. we nearly got an air horn thingy to let off each time our neighbours dog barked.. but though no.. so just got one of these pitch derrent.. works great..

02/09/2013 at 13:16

that might be the answer GF i will check that one out.Do they realy work only i think its con item,how can you prove it when you cannot hear it?

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