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15/08/2012 at 11:51
Flowerpotty wrote (see)

Oh if only Maud 

Oh dear - I think that says it all!

You'll be much happier watching his new programme then 

15/08/2012 at 11:59

Joslow I never for one minute thought the presenter did control the content.  I don't care who controls the content as long as it gets better than it has been!  

A good idea to take a look at other presenters gardens or just a better garden setting then Long Meadow.  Berryfields was much better.  

Yes I probably will be much happier watching AT's new programme, at least it will be a change from this years offering from GW.

Dove you seem to be very protective and even possessive of MD.  This isn't a personal critisism of him just the programme content and it's setting.

 

15/08/2012 at 12:13

Protective and possessive?  I've mentioned his name 3 times in two fairly long posts about the programme he presents in response to specific comments, one of which included a remark that he was patronising - if that's not personal criticism not sure what is?

I think you've made it clear that some people prefer the make-over type of programme that Alan Titchmarsh is presenting, whereas some of us prefer a programme which is more about plants and horticultural techniques.  

Isn't it great that we've now got one of each then?

15/08/2012 at 12:42

I've just looked back (quite randomly) at a past GW with Alys Fowler.  In a slot no more than two minutes long she collected some digitalis seeds and told us about the plant attributes and it's slug resistance, took the seed into the green house and showed us how to sow it and talked about the conditions it preferrs.  She then talked about those who don't have seed to collect can get a wonderful choice of seeds by joining a plant society like the Hardy plant society or the RHS and by doing so e.g. the RHS members have a choice of 700 seeds and also get 20 packets free for being members.  The seed list comes out in November and the seeds arrive in January.  She told how to prick out the seedlings and how/where to over winter them and the advantage of sowing in autumn is that they will flower the next year (being biannual).  She also gave some human interst telling us about when she was a student she used to clean the seed whilst listening to audiobooks.  I CALL THAT VALUE FOR MONEY!  Rachel de Thame in a recent GW however, took a full 5 minutes of programme time to revisit the Didcot Barracks most of which was watching her walk up the road, go through the gates, Look at how it used to be and recap on what they did.  She then talked to the wives with their children about how difficult it had  been to plant a few seeds and then she finally took a look at their straggly Dahlias which surprise suprise were planted (under her supervision) beneath the canopy of a huge tree!  The only educational bit was squashing a few black fly and tying in the sweet peas.  THAT'S WHAT I CALL A WASTE OF GOOD GW TIME. I rest my case !

15/08/2012 at 13:23
Dovefromabove wrote (see)

Protective and possessive?  I've mentioned his name 3 times in two fairly long posts about the programme he presents in response to specific comments, one of which included a remark that he was patronising - if that's not personal criticism not sure what is?

I think you've made it clear that some people prefer the make-over type of programme that Alan Titchmarsh is presenting, whereas some of us prefer a programme which is more about plants and horticultural techniques.  

Isn't it great that we've now got one of each then?

Dear Dove, if you had bothered to look back you would see that it wasn't me who called MD patronising !  But then your comments re "Make over types of programme" is !

 

 

 

 

15/08/2012 at 14:28

So if you understand that the producers/directors and commisioning editors dictate the contents, the slow pace, even the choice of presenters it would be better to start a new thread titled GW production .

15/08/2012 at 14:55
Flowerpotty wrote (see)
Dear Dove, if you had bothered to look back you would see that it wasn't me who called MD patronising !  But then your comments re "Make over types of programme" is !

 

 

 

 

I know it wasn't you Flowerpotty; I wasn't replying only to you but to the several recent posts containing grumbles about the current series of GW, and I addressed some of the specific points made.

And the term 'makeover type of programme' is only patronising if you regard that type  of programme as somehow less than other programmes, and as you've said you're going to enjoy watching presumably you feel it is a good programme, so why feel patronised?  It's a generic term for a programme of a certain type, but it's  not a term that imparts value or lack of it. 

I used to enjoy Groundforce but I feel that for me personally it has had its day.  However I am glad that AT's new series seems to meet a need amongst people who are not happy with GW as it currently is.  We surely can't be expected to watch and enjoy every TV programme.  That is why we have choice.

15/08/2012 at 16:28

I don't think I suffer from confusion regarding your meaning Dove, and I never ever said that I particularly like AT in any particular genre, you simply assumed. When I responded to Maud who said bring back AT she and I both mean in his role with GW not ground force or any other such show.  I didn't know that he was bringing out another show until you told me so I have no idea what it's about.  As far as "some of us prefer a programme that is about plants and horticultural technique" Havn't you actually been reading what I've been writing?  Staggering

 

15/08/2012 at 16:39

The AT show was on for 6 weeks recently on ITV-it was called "Love Your Garden"-"Ground Force"under another name -a similar show is on tonight on BBC1

Flowerpotty-have you seen Beechgrove?- that might be more to your liking.

15/08/2012 at 16:41

Yes, I've read what you've written but I don't agree that what you say you want isn't provided by GW.  However it certainly isn't what's provided by AT and Love your Garden, which you said you'd probably prefer. 

I'm probably the one that's confused, but I've been confused by the conflict between what you say you want and what you say you enjoy 

15/08/2012 at 16:41

Great minds think alike Geoff. Just watched BG on i-player. J.

15/08/2012 at 17:00

The SIMPLE version !  I think GW has been much much better than it now is with MD and at Long Meadow.  Who ever is responsible for content and situation is irrelevant, this is a personal observation and you don't have to agree with me.  Of course there is still some good content, I have never argued with that but anyone living in this century would agree that it's slow and not nearly as good as it was or should be.  Long Meadow is a poor setting because it's, boring, unrepresentative of most modern gardens and old fashioned. The show had strayed into content that has no place on GW and I think it needs a complete rethink.  That's it. AT is irrelevant in any genre.  Point made.   I'm off to do something interesting with my life.  Thanks for the entertainment, I havn't laughed so much on one of these bloggs in my life.  Enjoy your gardens.

15/08/2012 at 17:15
sotongeoff wrote (see)

Flowerpotty-have you seen Beechgrove?- that might be more to your liking.

No not heard of that one but will try anything at least once.  Thanks 

15/08/2012 at 18:27

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15/08/2012 at 18:55

Is that it then??????

15/08/2012 at 19:10

It looks like it and ended on a sour note-anyway upwards and onwards

15/08/2012 at 19:14

Haaaaaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa hahahahaha Sorry to disappoint, I'm cutting and running having scored game set and match I think.  

15/08/2012 at 19:19
Flowerpotty wrote (see)

Long Meadow is a poor setting because it's, boring, unrepresentative of most modern gardens and old fashioned. ..........I haven't laughed so much on one of these bloggs in my life.  Enjoy your gardens.

You see, that's my point - I don't depend on tv programmes or fashion to design my gardens - I use my own ideas and gain inspiration from visiting gardens with content by wonderful designers such as Xa Tollemache here at http://www.hha.org.uk/Property/52/Helmingham-Hall-Gardens.  I watch GW for technique.  

And although I've been gardening for 57 years (or since I was 3) I do not resent time taken on GW to teach and encourage new gardeners.

But then it does take all sorts to make a world  ; healthy debate is always good, and I'll enjoy my gardening again when my back's better - 

@Doctor63, if you've got any left bung some over this way - it'll be ages 'til our tatties are baked 

15/08/2012 at 19:39

you all talkin about alans new show.. it has not been on for the last 2 weeks.. why is that... only seen 4 i am sure.. last one with the rememberance garden..

15/08/2012 at 19:44
gardeningfantic wrote (see)

you all talkin about alans new show.. it has not been on for the last 2 weeks.. why is that... only seen 4 i am sure.. last one with the rememberance garden..

That was the last one-it was a series of 6-finished now

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