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Flowergirl, I think you will find there are no shops open!
Having read all the rants about drivers, I'm feeling quite virtuous. I gave up driving about 8 years ago, not because my driving was bad but because other road users scared me. I lost my confidence. I also totted up how much the car was costing me and decided cabs were the answer. The only problem I have is if I wish to visit GC's, I have to wait for one of my three kids to take me.
Have an 18 year old grandson about to take driving test and I'm not happy. I remember when I passed my test many years ago and when the roads weren't like they are today, I needed total quiet to concentrate on what I was doing. In time, like all things, driving just came naturally. You now get 4 youngsters in a vehicle, with mobiles going, music and chattering. How can they ever keep their mind on what they are supposed to be doing. I understand he will have some box installed in his vehicle. Not sure what all that is about.
As for shopping on line, Verdun, this is a godsend for people like me. I don't feel guilty as I blame all the big, out of town stores which sprung up some years ago. All sorts of shops in one outlet which killed the High Street.
Tina, I would say your confidence has returned in your writings they certainly do not look like those of a trembling Virgin (That does not sound quite right but hey ho it is down now).Our Town centre is pretty bleak now, it needs to change use as it did 200 years ago from a residential High Street to a shopping centre, it already had a large market. The people at the time raised H@#@, they did not want shops among their posh town houses. Now we have the opposite they do not want the shops to close yet shop on line or at the large out of town places.Time does not stand still as habits change and to me the changes are irreversible then so will town centres. Our own local get anything shop has just closed down, I did frequent it often but as the owner said "I cannot live on selling one packet of nails per day" such is life as we knew it changing course.
My Ham is smelling lovely as it cooks in the oven, lunch will be later today because of the hour.
First paragraph made me laugh Frank. Lack of self confidence started to wane when I left school. Did go to a tech but I always knew how many were in the class as I always came 35 out of 36! Went to work, loved what I got into and all I wanted to do was learn. Still doing same now. What I have found as I've got older is that I get silly hangups, like being nervous to drive. Just one of many.
We have no High Street left as such. You can't buy anything there, unless you visit a Charity shop. A lot has been due to the excessive rents being asked. A pet shop, which had been there ever since I could remember, had it's rent doubled over night. Proprietor tried to negotiate but got nowhere and that's what happened to practically every shop. We now have every charity shop imaginable, 9 hairdressers, usual banks, etc, McDonalds, KFC, 4 cafes and, the latest, pawn brokers and shops to sell your old gold/silver. Forgot, Poundland.
Actually cheeky Verdun it's a 99p shop, so even better than Poundland. You know what they say about the pennies.
Pentillie, the minute I put in my postcode, up pops Bexley, but that's not where I live. Not far away though. Bexley Village is still sort of thriving and, of course, The Old Mill is still there but there's no McDonalds either! I think they would find it difficult to obtain suitably large enough premises it being such a small oldy worldy place. Would need several shops to be empty to make it viable. Mind you, there was a very suspect book shop which opened there some years back, blacked out windows, ring the bell type, right near the library. Not sure if it's still there. Message to moi. Check that out. Bexleyheath is having yet another revamp, at considerable cost to the Council Tax payer and with Bluewater just down the road, total waste of money.
Hope you manage to keep McD at bay. In the evening, there is quite a large police presence in the Town and I certainly wouldn't venture there. Sign of the times, I'm sad to say.
Hope that your town manages to stay the same.
I used to live on the out skirts of Dublin if you wanted to go to town it was a 3/4hr bus ride car parking was up to £2 an hr or part there off and then they opened Blanchardstown shopping center (free all day parking) it was huge it has car space for up to 5000 and every weekend it would take nearly an hour of a drive to get from my house to main city road and it was only 2 miles long it seemed that every person from the rest of the country would descend on this part of Dublin one of the reasons I moved to the country , where I am living now is a small village with a local chemist a butchers 3 pubs and a chipper/pizza and chinese takeout ,pop 2500
Started this on another thread and realised this is the correct one.
Comments were made about allotted car parking spaces, ie, Mum's with babies, etc. These were, of course, needed, when these special baby car seats came into being. Need to be able to open the door wide enough to get seat with baby out. However, do they really need to be so close to the doors of the supermarket? Why is these days that everything is centred round parents with young kids?
'In the olden days' we Mums never took kids with us to shop. I would look after friend's kids and she would look after mine. Happy situation, kids were happy, mums were happy and other shoppers happy. Why does a whole family need to do supermarket shopping? Why is the shopping precinct full of families over the weekend or Bank Holidays. Kids a pain in the neck, parents shouting - or is this just where I live?
I sound like an old grouch but I'm very fed up with the way Senior Citizens are knocked all the time and everything now seems to be centred around how to improve the life of people with young families. We had to do it on our own so why can't they.
I'm strong. I can take your criticism. Feel free
Derek, great to know that you have got out of the ratrace.
If councils want to revive town centres they'll have to reduce rent and rates and provide free parking. Even then most shops will not survive unless they also sell online. That's why it is not a simple choie between online shopping and using the local shops. Supermarkets are cheaper (some of the time, anyway) and are a quick one-stop destination for busy working women. As Frank says, change is part of life and usually not reversible. We'll see how rising unemployment and the consequent need to be self-employed affects things.
Our local town centre is in serious decline and is now a place of pound shops, charity shops, banks, building societies , pubs and cafes. It is dirty and shabby and only the poor, sick and long-term unemployed hang around there for long. Just a mile from my house, there's a McArthur Glen outlet which is attractive and has quality shops. There are also two other out of town shopping areas. But at weekends the town centre fills up with youngsters drinking and some taking drugs. There have been three fairly recent murders and quite a lot of suicides among youngsters. It is a jungle out there, as the song says. Strikes me that the best thing would be for it to revert to being a residential area safe and decent for people to live in. I stayed in Jerusalem a couple of years ago on Jewish Independence Day, in an Arab area, and it felt quite a lot safer than our town centre on a Friday night.
There is no case whatsoever for supermarkets to allocate the nearest carpark spaces to the fit mums and dads with children If they need more space to open the doors then go to the far reaches of the carpark which fill up last. Moreover they are young enough to walk the extra distance, and which isn't that far anyway. The irrefutable logic of carpark layout has to be based on the ability to walk from car to shop i.e. disabled spaces nearest, OAP spaces next, then the rest, furthest away.
TT you are absolutely correct about how young families are mollycoddled these days. We can all remember how our own parents coped brilliantly in the 1940's, 1950's etc without ant preferential treatment and none of the labour saving devices.
Seems to me that some form of culture change is overdue.
Culture change is happening fast, WW. That's the trouble! It can't be reversed, either, though it can move forwards to a better balance betwen the older values and the new. We have a culture of 'doing what is right for you' and also a culture of entitlement. I believe in social equality and I am a lifetime labour voter, but I regret to say that this culture is the result of the welfare state. Hard work and self-reliance are now foreign to a proportion of our population, who feel that life should be easy.
Re families shopping with their kids, I'm an OAP with the whole day at my disposal, so I try to do my shopping when they are least likely to be around, mostly around lunch time when everyone is fooding!
G/G, think of the changes in our lifetime, how we all wanted change, it took time but we got there so who says change must stop because we are satisfied.All the stuff we threw out after the war and the need for new and modern, that stuff we did sling is now worth a fortune because people want it, to them it is twee and up to date? Town centres are gone unless we get a transport system (Trams) from door to town and back, that would bring the Town centres back to life or move the masses of people they moved from town centres back again, that is happening very slowly, will the shops catch up?My Grandchildren have far differing needs to us older generations and they will progress into a world we would be lost in, as long as I can live my life out in peace and some tranquility then so be it.Frank.
Pentillie - not an old misery at all. You are merely saying what many others think, myself included. Have to admit I am a culprit in using the term 'kids'. Will try to do better.
I have a primary school within spitting distance of me and over the years have noticed the decline in their behaviour. Mums spread across the path, children running riot in your path and not a word said. Of course, they are on the way to their people carriers, all parked as close as can be to the school.
I feel fortunate that my youngest grandchildren are being brought up with the values instilled in my daughter and it is noticed. Last week they both received a 'Respect' badge in assembly given to pupils who show same to their peers and teachers. We were very proud. 18 year old grandson brought up by me, so I know he is well grounded, well as an 18 year old can be! So far, he has been great.
Frank, it is true that, as society changes, older people can feel like dinosaurs, because we find it difficult to adjust. Also younger people don't need the same pace of life as we do. They like excitement and stimulation. Lots of changes were good. There has been greater prosperity, so that even many people officially below the poverty line have telephones, televisions and are adequately dressed and warm. When I was young, 3% of the population went to university. Now, around a third of young people have a degree. I'm not minimising the problems, just pointing out that few now live as my husband did as a child, wearing hand me down trousers with patches on the patches and shoes with cardboard in the soles and no toys or books for Christmas - and his father was employed. He was the village policeman and his family owned the local pottery.
Pentille, that notice says Eat kids free, in the words of a great comic, "do you like kids" "yes but I could not eat a whole one" and how I wished at times.