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28/05/2013 at 21:35

Well - as we all know after the hideous death of that poor old man the other day- the owners are always the problem.

The screaming,unruly children have the same problem- the thoughtless inconsiderate owners..I mean parents.

A little gardening related quote I heard many years ago- 'children need to be raised, not left to grow - like weeds'.

28/05/2013 at 22:04

'children need to be raised, not left to grow - like weeds'.

How true FG. Sometimes wonder why parents have children.

28/05/2013 at 23:09

TT, parents do not have children, children have parents!! at their beck and call, as taxis, as loan agents with no chance of getting it back, as a shoulder to cry on when things do not go their way and as cheap, very cheap baby sitters when their own wee ones get in the way of them and their right to have a life. Am I biased of course I am not, "err" much.

Dogs need a short sharp shock, a double barrelled shot gun comes in handy, you can fire into the air if you wish??

BBQ's I have done many in my time, I would fill two ovens to cook off the meat then finish it on the BBQ with appropriate sauce drowning it, I got many compliments on well cooked meat and cooked but unburnt sausage, I never told them and Joan would be laughing her head off as they tucked into it all, the salad came out at the last minute from the fridge in the garage, yes we were organised.
The last good BBQ was in California up in the forest with real Yankee steak cooked to a turn and they had the biggest fridge in the biggest mobile home I had ever seen. Herb doing the cooking lit the BBQ nearly two hours before he cooked on it which was the secret, get those coals white hot and not smoking.

Frank.

29/05/2013 at 00:20

GG, not really 'learnt' to train dogs by going to classes, but by growing up with them.  I seem to find it easy to slide into a dog's brain and know what's going on in there.  I have sworn at the telly when dog borstal has been on, there is the odd rogue dog that's not trainable (my Mum's Skye terrier that tried to bite me when I was 4 is one example), but they are few & far between.  The only dog we've had problems with is Max, and we took him to a dog shrink, he didn't really tell us anything we didn't know, he couldn't decide if the constant barking when we were out was separation anxiety or the kids playing football in the street.  In the end we think it WAS separation anxiety, after all, he was a rescue and had been around a bit, when he worked out he was in his forever home, he settled down.  He knows what 'going shopping' means, an knows we'll be back, and is usually on the sofa before the front door has shut.  If he had thumbs he'd be looking for 'Zoo vet' or somthing with the remote.

The biggest problem you find with dogs is weak owners.  A dog that's in it's place, right at the bottom of the pack, is a happy dog.  No need to worry about defending the place, raising puppies, keeping your place as top dog, finding food for the rest of the pack....bliss, for a dog.  Remembering a dog is a wolf with centuries of domestication helps, as there are other important roles in the pack.  Beta male and female, rounder-upper, and mediator are some.  Bracken was a mediator when she was around, and Max is definitely beta male (or deputy dawg as he's sometimes known as).  My favourite has definitely got to be GSD, or crossbreeds with GSD in there somewhere.  I'd never have a border collie, I don't want a dog that's smarter than I am.  We think Max is a mix of collie and GSD, had I known the mix I doubt we would have taken him on (we thought at first he was GSD and Dobermann).

Anyway, some random rants

* People who light a fag the minute they get out of a shopping centre - can you not wait until you're more than 5 feet away from the doors before lighting your vile cancer sticks?

* People out shopping who suddenly stop in random places with no warning

* Other drivers (in particular, doing 30 on a motorway, not bothering to indicate - I know which way you're going, I'm f*****g psychic, doing 40 in a 30 zone)

* Misuse of the apostrophe (heavens, it's not hard, you take some letters out, put an apostrophe in, use it to show possession, and NEVER use it for plurals).

Discuss.

29/05/2013 at 06:06

Whew!

Can your dog do this?

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29/05/2013 at 07:24

Brilliant, Swiss Sue...........how long did it take to train to do this?,can it hoover and dust as well?..........this has got to be the ultimate pet 

29/05/2013 at 07:33

I have a roomba for hoovering it isn't bad but you need to be a little tidy as it will eat socks if it finds any.

 

29/05/2013 at 07:53

MMP- agree with all of your list...I would add the ones who don't indicate at roundabouts when others are waiting to enter/exit....inconsiderate t***s, and the ones who park over two spaces when the car park's half empty..

Re dogs...horses are the same. Sorted many that other people have screwed up. You have to take it with a pinch of salt. Some people just shouldn't have them.

blackest- what's a roomba?

29/05/2013 at 08:01

Sounds like a dance

29/05/2013 at 08:31

close GillyL its a vac.

If this link works  you should  get the idea

29/05/2013 at 08:53

more refined roomba

29/05/2013 at 09:48

If I ever get rich I will buy a lawnmower that works like that. There are a few in our neighbourhood and I do enjoy watching them "marching" around the lawns, even very big ones (lawns). I can imagine myself lying in my deckchair with a g+t, watching it do all the work!

29/05/2013 at 10:38

http://s4.gardenersworld.com/uploads/images/original/24229.jpg?width=216&height=350&mode=max

I quite agree with MMP about dogs. They are happier when they know their place in the pack.

This is my German Shepherd with his security blanket. He's nearly 11 now and according to the on-line dog age calculator that is 87 in human years.

How did you get on at the vets with Max's paw MMP?

29/05/2013 at 10:39

Fairygirl/Daughter, animals were always there for me and before me so it was natural.
They do sense fear or indecision and they do like to know you are in charge, training sheep dogs and preparing animals for the ring washing brushing oiling hooves etc all need confidence in both animal and person doing the job.
At the moment I get a little Jack Russel come Corgi from next door from nine to four, they got the dog then she had to go back to work so I take him, they are totally daft with him he even sleeps in their bed, madness.
Sonny was almost out of control, not now, he knows his place and the lift in my voice if he is getting excited, my neighbour thinks the improvement wonderful then tries to undo it within minutes so I am now training her.

How lazy can people get, lawn mowers sweepers? they will have automatic bottom wipers next. Even at my age the hoover is good exercise, I use it as a zimmer frame with an engine belting round the bungalow like Alonso, then the lawn with an even bigger engined zimmer, sit long enough and you will never get up.

Frank.

29/05/2013 at 11:14

It's not lazy it is time saving, letting you do other things while it works away.  no more lazy than a toaster or a washing machine you could use a grill or a twintub. There is downsides to the rumba as they need emptying after each run pretty much and regular cleaning. On the positive side you can set them off in the morning and head out to work and come back to a freshly hoovered house.

It's quite perfect for the single man, after all it is a robot

 

29/05/2013 at 11:18

I am very impressed Blackest.  Anything to make the dreaded housework easier.  Does it do stairs, which are my biggest bug bear?

Perfect for me too.

29/05/2013 at 12:34

no stairs but it won't fall down them either because of the cliff sensors. No stairs here in my cottage. There is even a remote control so you can drive it, although i've never used it to do anything other than show friends there is a remote so you can drive it. it's quite good for keeping kids occupied.

 

29/05/2013 at 12:47

Washing machine? twin-tub? Drier??
Would that be the big iron tub in the corner with a poss Dolly and Mangle attached?
Drier I have one of those, it is outside and stretches between two hooks, it did a good job Saturday, bed clothes off washed hung out dried then aired and back on the bed lovely and fresh, us widowers need to keep occupied.
Toaster? as my toast would have cheese with mustard and Lee and Perins on it you need a grill, don't forget the pepper.
Mod cons are for very busy people and going by the busy people around me no time to spit or garden either, what is so important that you have to save every second for some other task I ask?

Frank.

29/05/2013 at 13:58

Hi

I have just briefly skimmed through these posts. I would like to inform you all of a remarlable discovery I made many years ago--

 

Everyone is out of step except ME.

29/05/2013 at 15:01

Frank'Dad- I had a conversation recently, when I was out in the garden, with a 'gran' who was looking after her son's badly behaved son and small daughter. She said 'oh he doesn't have time to do the garden as he works offshore (I know people who work offshore- so- 2 weeks on and 2 weeks at home at least then...). 'He's thinking of getting someone in to do it'. I felt like saying 'why can't his wife do it then?' They've got a bit of grass (nothing else) at the front about 40 by 30 ft,a tiny back  garden and virtually no plants. I said 'well it only takes about 15 minutes to do this- including getting the mower out....' 

I have more grass than they do.

Go figure - as the Americans would say.