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MMP and Palaisglide,have no intention in getting into "cat fights "or anything else. I fail to see how you can take a dislike to someone you don,t know and insult them on line.
As far as I am concerned this thread is for rants ,and once said forgotten.
Agree MMP life,s to short .
Caci, ce n'est pas un rant:
EAT YER HEARTS OUT, ATOMIC KITTEN!
MMP Thank you but "hi Ham a Ossifer" Warrant Officer Class One or WO1, when you retire in the rank you are still so addressed, I stand to attention in my carpet slippers when the national Anthem is played fingers in the Churchill position "err I think" and medals mildewed on my breast, once a one always a one whatever that one is?
Gilly my thoughts exactly, let sleeping dogs lie.
Rant, had to puit the bins out in the pouring rain because the binmen come at the crack of dawn and I mean the rising of the sun, too early even for me.
As to books, we get this huge build up, interviews book clubs then a couple of months later the book is on sale in Tesco giving it away. A bit like the films that get blown up in the adverts then go straight to DVD.I was an avid reader from being able to hold a book and that would be by gas light sitting on the fender next to the black leaded stove. In those day we had the Two penny library, the Lady running it soon got to know I loved the travel and geographic type books, she would order the new ones for me and often did not take the two pence. I thank that lady for what she did.Books had a beginning a middle and a end back then, sex was hinted at and not the graphic detail which seem to make up most of the modern books.The love of books never goes away and I take out three or four a week from the library a couple will get tossed aside as rubbish or the plot is in the first three pages why read the rest. Luckily when you put the books through it tells you if you have had them out before, you can ditch the ones you do not want to read twice.Autobiography's but not of people who have not even reached puberty yet, everything on Churchill and other world leaders of my time, film stars Adventurers and people who changed things, not the flaccid I was a pop star or celebrity type rubbish of self aggrandisement.How many of you can truthfully say you have read War and Peace from start to finish, well stuck in the Desert with only that and the Bible which I still have well and truly worn and dog eared, you need something, "err" that cannot be used as toilet paper.
Frank. PS I am thinking of making all my writings into a book, I would need advice and guidance on any sex pages as well out of date on that.Oh also a list of what not to say that would upset people, "nor to h@## with that they do not have to read it, "err" buy it though!!!
"he who is the ownerof books is indeed a weatlthy man"
Favourite authors,Phillipa Gregory,Simon Sharma,David Starkey ,& Dickens.
In view of Above ,maybe to be joined by ? by Palaisglide
Rant connected to books,I hate those sticky labels with the price or other advertising such as buy one get one half price,that they put on the front cover.especially if you want to give it as a present,it never comes off without a small mark.
@gillyL.. yes i agree.. they stick them on everything.. dvd covers for instance.. bought one for my bro in law at weekend for birthday the the label came off taking some of the cover print with it.. so annoying
another rant i have this week is.. shops who cram so much in you cant walk round the stands without knocking stuff off.. sports direct for instance.. my god!! so cramped in there and you need a sat nav to find the tills.. then when you do they have no queueing line.. just stand amoungst the racks of items for sales.. while a large banner over the till states.. go on and line and tell us what you think of our queueing.. "i can tell ya.. get some space and make a single line up system.. as that lady over there has just got served there while we are all stood here waiting for you to get going serving us.." i announced along with some "yeah get it together girl" and "come on have not got all day love" from in front and behind me.
SPorts Direct is not a shop. It is an overcrowded warehouse staffed by unpleasnat youths smelling of cheap perfume and testesterone. I am 66 yrs old ex military and I am NOT their "Mate" as "Can I help you MATE"
As for books- their are no boring books- only books that you are not stimulated or captured by. I enjoy reading SF Anne Mcaffery-great- but it would bore me to death to stick to one genre.
The most moving and capturing book recently read was SKALLARIGG- sadly now out of print. It is funny and very sad and very uplifting I recommend that to everyone.
Geoffrey Archer books are good for compost they are rot as they leave his pen and decay quickly.
CharlieN, I watched that link and knew I was old! Just didn't get it! Sorry!
Enjoyed reading all the stuff about books. Love whodunnits written by women myself, from Marjorie Allingham to the modern day, especially funny ones. (I just don't think like a man, I suppose.)
I see April Jones' alleged killer was convicted today. Such a sad story. Hope life improsonment really means life - these sexually-motivated people kill again too often. Now that so many psychiatric hospitals have closed down and personality disorders are regarded as untreatable, there are too many psychopaths free to kill, even though it is often clear that they are dangerous.
GG- I have to say I feel sorry for his family. Can you imagine the grief they will get just because they're related. Desperate.
I've always been under the impression the life sentence replaced the death penalty- in other words you're life was still taken but in a different way. How can it be justice if people only serve ten years or whatever for a deliberate act of murder.
Like you , I like a good whodunnit. Barbara Vine, PD James, Val McD, Geoffrey Deaver etc but my all time fave book is still Brideshead Revisited. Still cry every time I read it.
Gilly, That book would be a biography as if written by another person as that is how it seems to me looking back, as If I was outside looking in, snooping would be a good word.My reading seems archaic when I look at the Authors you all name, of course Miss English, my English Tutor (yes that was her name) dragged me kicking and screaming into the classics.Homer when we were still doing Greek and Latin, the Elizabethan Poet George Chapman, Alexander Pope, Andrew Lang, W B Yeats, Ezra Pound and not to be missed Daniel Defoe. I did like all the Smiley books nothing like a good spy novel.Does Readers Digest count I ask?
Nothing wrong with Readers Digest Frank,
Type of reading material is immaterial,its the fact that a person reads that is important.
GG & Fairygirl,.Agree with your comments about the April Jones killer,Hope He never sees life from out behind bars again.
Sometimes I feel so sad Gilly when you see people's lives utterly destroyed like that. The Sarah Payne family - it broke my heart watching the parents on those hideous press things - the father becoming more broken with every day that went by. The Russell family who had moved to get a better life only for some maniac to kill the mother and one daughter and leave the other battered. I don't condone it, but I do understand why people feel they have to take action because the justice system seems woefully inadequate on so many occasions. I'm old enough to remember the Moors murders and that poor woman (Keith Bennett's mother)is dead never knowing where her little boy was left. Life sentences must mean that.
I also feel that reading is what matters rather than a particular type of book. My older daughter was an avid reader at an early age whereas the younger one wasn't interested other than magazines. She now reads a lot - it was just a question of encouragement and finding the right book to spark her. Good old Harry Potter!
What I find really sad about April Jones' murder, is her body is still missing, and the evil scum that did it, won't say where the body is. At least if her parents had her back, even just to bury, they would know where she was, and hopefully it would give them some sort of closure. In these cases, I believe that the victims should have some sort of say in if/when he gets out (I hope never), what sort of torment has he thoughtlessly inflicted on her parents? Every day of their life they will have pain, and a huge hole where their daughter once was. I just hope what he said about running her over is true (which I doubt), and that she didn't know fear or pain before she died.
Off now to give my little ones a cuddle.
MMP - agree. It was the same with the moors murders. He taunted that poor woman pretending to know where her son was. Doesn't get much worse than that. my sister lost her first child at 10 months but at least it was peaceful and they were with her.
Cuddle them tight.x
I agree too, MMP, and, gruesome as it sounds, would add that in this particular case torture should be used to extricate what he did with that child. I bet if they pulled out his fingernails one by one he's soon remember!
Torture never works, a stoic will enjoy it and laugh, a coward will tell you anything to stop it, usually not the truth.He will suffer hell in jail because the hard lads in there hate child molestation, they will probably have to lock him up 23 hours a day for his own safety although they will have to let him out sometime and God knows what they will do to his food.He will suffer years of torture, will not get the mod-cons for a long while so will be stewing on his own thoughts and memories alone without the alcohol he once used.That is hell on earth to normal people, the death penalty is too quick.
Online Porn should be banned, what sane person needs it and what kind of twisted mind would get any enjoyment out of watching the stuff. We talk about freedom to do as we wish although there is also the freedom of the people who suffer from the people who then go and enact their fantasy's.Also when will social boards like face book and such clamp down on the people who trawl them for their own ends. Some call it progress, yes progress into the pit more like it.
One of my tutors at college got 'poached' many years ago, to work on their anti-porn unit, it was his job to track down where someone was using their ISP address, and they would have a visit from the boys in blue. They would also track down the providers of such filth, and they'd have the book thrown at them, although they'd be out in a few months and back to making the hardcore stuff. They let the other inmates know what they'd been doing, and justice in it's most basic form is what they got once they were inside. The prison officers would let it go on, and stop it short of Murder, so most of their time was spent in Hospital Prison.
Interestingly enough, they move staff on in this unit pretty regularly, especially once they have kids, as the porn involving children is the worst (and they get years for making that, rather than months if it's just adults that are the participants). You are not allowed to work in the unit if you have kids under 16, as the temptation to go around with a shotgun has proved too much for some people in the past.
So there are people out there that are doing their best to stop this, but it's an awful job, and there are lots of safeguards to ensure the well being of the normal people who have to watch such awful things (psych evaluations, counselling etc), to make sure it doesn't impact the good guys too deeply.
America has the right idea for child molesters, either the chair, lethal injection, life meaning life, and chemical castration being some of the weapons in their arsenal.
I think that castration should be an option in the UK, for child molesters and violent rapists/murderers. Even if they are released, they physically wouldn't be able to do anything. And they should be fitted with a tracker for life, so you can keep a watch on them to make sure they don't try anything else.
One problem MMP is the freedom movement, you should never be stopped doing what you wish in the name of freedom no matter who it hurts.They should be made to sit in on trials such as we have just seen and made to realise their fight for total freedom can do much harm.I spent time as a Regimental Policeman as a young lad and we had plenty of prisoners, men called up for their two years who did not want to be in, they went AWOL and always got caught, we treated them in a proper manner until they brought in the rat who had raped one of our Naafi girls, he fell up and down the Guardroom steps daily (we had no steps), I refused to take part but did nothing to stop it, he was glad to leave for Colchester and I was one of the escort.He did a runner on the station but I was faster he arrived at the prison in a bit of a state and got no sympathy there. People make porn because there is money in it, if others did not buy the filth it would stop dead.
I don't think it's *porn* or *online porn* that's the problem there. I think you have to narrow it down a bit further than that. There have even been studies done that showed a negative correlation between availability of "normal" porn and frequency of sexual assault, suggesting that men-it's-mostly-men-after-all who are that way inclined seek an outlet one way or the other and will settle for the readily available porn instead of taking risks.
Number of issues with castration, like it being irreversible and verdicts occasionally being wrong (see, for example, original Hillsborough reports, the Guildford Four, the Maguire Seven and so on). There's also the matter of motivation. Taking away the sex drive could reduce someone whose thing is little girls from predator to just some old guy who occasionally sees a little girl, thinks she's beautiful and wishes he could take her on a horse-riding holiday because she'd like that and she's got a lovely smile. Sure. What about someone who's using rape as an expression of hatred rather than trying to get off regardless of the other person's preferences or opinions? Not being able to get it up won't make him hate any less or be any less inclined to act on hate. He'll just find something else to use, like a glass bottle.
Locations of bodies? One sturdy chair, one roll of duct tape, one serrated kitchen knife, a bottle of vodka and a week or so, and they'd be begging to tell the truth. It's probably better for the soul to just stuff the bastard full of barbiturates, ecstasy and marijuana, keep him talking and wait for him to run his mouth.
Crikey! I think we should all remember that it is possible to sink to the same level as the abuser! We must be humane or we reduce our own humanity to a bestial level.
I do think there is an argument for castrating sexual abusers of children.They will not change - the connections are in their brain for good. The only possible alternatives are lifelong imprisonment or permanent supervision in the community, by electronic and other means. Why should people have the right to retain their sexuality when they use it only for destroying children emotionally and psychologically?