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Seems only 5 minutes ago that people on here were complaining about Carol's 'over enthusiasm' and 'artificial brightness' or some such terms.  

To misquote Abraham Lincoln, it seems that " can please some of the people some of the time, but you'll never please all of the people all of the time" 


Has anyone noticed that the person who started the thread hasn't responded at all ? When you first post on the forum you look for replies and are keen to join in.

Me thinks someone is sitting laughing at us whilst we go around in circles.  

Scott Edwards

We certainly know how to go round and round and round on this one.


We've had a lot of practice!

the tidy gardener

I like monty. but I think hes better off on his own presenting i.e. gardeners world, the French and Italian garden series he did.

but on Chelsea it didn't seem quite him. and I thought he looked a bit scruffy!

but I will watch anything to do with gardening as we are usually starved of programmes throughout the year!


I love monty, I like scruffy too! Don,t trust anyone too slick and smart!


Hands up.  I'll be Dougal (please).  

I'm just happy that gardening programmes are broadcast at all.  There are presenters that I can take or leave but on the whole they do a good job.  Always picking up tips from everywhere.  Remembering them is the hard bit


Scruffy is fine for presenting GW cos there are mucky jobs and plants that can tear clothes.   Scruffy is not suitable for presenting Chelsea.   It's not as though he can't afford a decent suit so it must be a lack of judgement.  Not enough to be a nice chap.  Have to look the part and know what you're talking about to present the biggest such show in the world.

And I still think the original post was a plant.   We've had them before when he's been slammed for the content or style of the round the world series and the ones on Italian and French gardens.


If I didn't think a WUM had started this thread I'd repeat what my OH said first night Charlie Chaplin or what ?  


Anymore input from you Lizbell ? As it was your thread

Scott Edwards

I thought he'd made a bit of an effort! He had a tie on - did he not! LOL.


This is an old girls' view, life is short and there is so much to do and enjoy. Why waste precious time and energy watching someone you don't like or bad mouth them.

I know this is a forum,but if we haven't anything nice to say, it's nicer not to say anything at all

Scott Edwards

There are so few gardening programs on TV that it doesn't seem to me to be unreasonable to want them to be worth watching. Whilst I believe we should avoid personal attacks against individual presenters (I might prefer one presenters character and style whereas you might prefer another person) we should be able to offer opinions on how a program can be improved. Whilst I enjoy watching both GW and Beechgrove I find Beechgrove to be the more helpful in giving down to earth practical gardening advice. I do learn things from GW but simply not as often as from Beechgrove. Monty is clearly a skilled gardener but doesn't always get it right. He's not perfect as none of us are- though he know far more than me. Surely, the GW production team should want to know what it's viewers think so that it can judge where it got things right and where it can improve. Just needs to be constructive feedback rather than a personal attack on individuals. 


Lizanne's one and only post ever by the look of she a relative I wonder or just a 'plant'!!  

Orchid Lady

I like that my dog has paid attention and now follows me around the garden so that I have my very own Nigel 


lesley,like you i'm just happy to watch any gardening on tv, and i barely remember anything,still blaming baby brain at 6 months! i think monty is just himself, not scruffy to offend, i think he may look very uncomfortable in a proper suit, like my hubby, has worn  a suit once in the last year or so?! i don't dislike any presenters really


Well said Scott, constructive criticism is very useful but not the nastiness. It only reflects back on the person writing it.

Monty idol Mark, I do not think so