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Orchid Lady

At risk of getting slammed down, again, I think a couple of you may have hit the nail on the head......first post and no response??? And I actually don't recall seeing Mony Don 

Dovefromabove

Looked like a WUM right from the start - I said so to a couple of people but didn't want to insult a new poster - however ........................... 

nutcutlet

Looked like a wind up to me.

These interminable love/hate discussions re presenters and programmes irritate me out of all proportion to their importance. It's obvious we all like different people and want different things from a programme. What else is there to say?

I'll keep my head down now

Gray

Well for me Monty Don and Chelsea just did not work at all.......the two never went together.......hope they bring AT back next year. Monty is just not a Plants person at all.

Orchid Lady

Well.....you said it Dove, I'm not using that word anymore 

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scroggin

Well said Nutcutlet, I've been dragged into the debate before but I now realise its like religion and politics and best left alone

I don't see why we can't discuss the merits or otherwise of presenters when their performance is so key to our enjoyment or not of any programme and our desire to learn about how, what and when to do things to make our gardens more beautiful and successful.    It can surely also be done without being rude to each other or about the people being discussed.

For me the main problems with GW and Chelsea coverage is that, since AT retired from GW, the programmes have been brought in house to the Beeb where the assorted producers and camera people who are not plant or garden specialists and who are carving out a career in the Beeb more often want to show how clever they are rather than how clever the plants or gardeners are.

When GH and AT were at the helm GW was made by a specialist production company, as is Beechgrove.   Their motivation is to make good gardening programmes to satisfy the audience and thus keep the contract, and their careers and incomes, renewed.   If a private company had presided over the halving of the core audience, they'd have lost the job whereas the Beeb team that's lost all those GW viewers just carries on regardless.

Dovefromabove

But 

Dr. Walter wrote (see)

GARDENERS' WORLD on 27 April 2014 topped the BBC 2 viewers' ratings according to the official auditing company, BARB.

I think that this is the first time that the programme has ever been the no 1 watched show on the channel.

It had 2.32 million of us watching.

CONGRATULATIONS to every on involved in producing it.

 

Dr. Walter wrote (see)

GARDENERS' WORLD on 27 April 2014 topped the BBC 2 viewers' ratings according to the official auditing company, BARB.

I think that this is the first time that the programme has ever been the no 1 watched show on the channel.

It had 2.32 million of us watching.

CONGRATULATIONS to every on involved in producing it.

Audiences numbers have plummeted across all channels and genres - there is so much more choice nowadays than 10 or even 5 years ago. 

Sorry some of you expected me to respond immediately, not glued to my computer, far too busy in my very large garden, made even better by Monty's advice!

 

KEF

 Happy gardening in your very large garden.

Dove - given the popularity of gardening and the paucity of gardening programmes across all the many channels on TV and the ease with which they can now be recorded for viewing at a more convenient time I wouldn't expect a drop from over 4 million regular viewers to a  peak of 2.32 million to be something to be complacent about.

Orchid Lady

I agree David.....with the first comment that is (I realised what I said just in time!)  And we have many experts in specialised areas too.....my back yard looks amazing 

 

nutcutlet

I wonder where I got information before the internet.

If I want to grow something, the info's there. What soil, hardy, the lot. 

If I can't work it out I ask on here. Magic. 

 

Well.... I admire Monty Don , I know this will sound a lil hippy- he has a relationship with his garden and that clearly reflects what he grows and how he grows it. The way he talks about his garden and plants is so eloquent and "felt". He like alot of us feel that the transition between being a seed and becoming a plant is nothing short of miraculous.

Everyone makes mistakes, no-ones perfect ( would be boring if we were)but Like Nutcutlet says there's loads of literature out there and if in doubt ask here ( which I have done a number of times, the advice has been brilliant).

You know being disabled makes me realise that life's too short to bicker, seeing GW evry Friday evening makes my week.

So Monty carry on and a big thumbs up to you Carol))))

Orchid Lady

I just like everyone......peace man  (But I like Nigel best, even if he doesn't say much)  And OH likes that lovely lady best......is it Rachel? And he knows nothing about gardening!!! 

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Orchid Lady

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