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Good Morning , There are two G/c close to me and both are in Termonfeckin 3 kms neither sell
vegetable plants or seed ,just spring , summer bedding plants , shrubs and trees .
This is why I go to the nearest supermarket 13 kms
Good morning. Must say I am very pleased with T&M, I ordered seeds from them and received them in the post a week later, all the way to Switzerland. Shame I can't order plugs, they would probably die on the way! Some seed companies sell T&M seeds here, but cost twice as much, including the postage from England.
I don't know the lay of the land in England Derek, but Dobbies is the biggest garden center chain in Scotland, and they are owned by tesco's, these supermarkets know there's money in plants, they have enormous buying power that small independents can't compete with, i'm afraid they will corner the market so to speak, to the detriment of quality and choice for us gardeners..
I use a great nursery half an hour away which supplies many of the supermarkets and garden centres in Scotland anyway but I agree if there's a local one nearby we should all try and support them if possible. I used to use one 10 mins from where I live just now but sadly it's now closed- land has now been built on. Sign of the times
A lot of this is a financial and convenience issue for a many people-the High Street days as we traditionally think of it are numbered- we all know that-Blockbusters HMV etc anybody?
So we go for the cheaper option-people are struggling and there will be casualties because the smaller nurseries cannot compete with supermarkets and the increasing mail order via internet sales
It is just a fact in the current climate.
Percy I do agree what you say but at this time when things are so tight money does come into it. Example Morrison's on Sat night i got 6 strong fuchsia plugs for £2 at our local Doobbies GC they where a £1 each plug and not any better looking may i say. Also at Morrison's a Salix Caprea Kilmarnock £8 at Dobbies £20 same label on it am a member of Dobbies garden club and buy most of my stuff there but i still watch my pennies and love a bargain.
I agree Andy, things are tight in this present financial climate, and of course we all love a bargain, why would anyone in there right mind pay over the odds when they can get the same thing cheaper elsewhere, but the point is, or rather my fear is, once the nurseries ( supermarkets competetors) have disapered the supermarkets are free to charge as they like, as they will have an ever increasing share of the market and eventually a monopoly..
That is not strictly true -they will compete with each other on price-the independent shopkeeper or anything similar is rapidly becoming a thing of the past
Who in their right mind would open any business selling goods from a premises nowadays unless it is a niche product?
You wont compete for very long on price with a big supermarket chain Geoff before your out of business, then they are free to do as they please..
this type of add annoys me, they dont say how big they are as supplied, could be 2' could be plugs.
Lyn, I usually send suppliers like this an E-mail under "contact us" and ask them what I want to know. Usually I get a reply. You could also suggest that they incorporate the size of the plants into their website.
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Here is my rant: Why are Jersey Plants Direct selling Busy Lizzy that are prone to fungus and why are is there no disclamer. I just bought 160 and have only just found out about the fungus that is killing them !!!!! the above text was posted on mob rants earlier tonight . in British law does this person have any redress for the expense incurred if his complaint is true Regards Derek ROI
Here is my rant: Why are Jersey Plants Direct selling Busy Lizzy that are prone to fungus and why are is there no disclamer. I just bought 160 and have only just found out about the fungus that is killing them !!!!!
the above text was posted on mob rants earlier tonight . in British law does this person have any redress for the expense incurred if his complaint is true
Regards Derek ROI
Perhaps they assume everyone either knows the risk about the fungus or they've forgotten. Would have thought they'd do the honourable thing- or are they perhaps a new disease resistant variety? Re the earlier posts about cheaper plants- Tesco is taking over the world but we are all watching our costs so we have to make savings where we can.
Verdun , Thank you for your answer to the above I felt that Greentooth should get everyone's attention I too get fobbed of by G/C so that's why , where I can , I grow everything from seed
Which is what I advised last night
In March I ordered plants (all on special offer) from Van Meuven and entered my Gardeners' World subscriber code. I noticed as the order completed online that the prices were the full purchase prices of these items and not the special offers - I assumed that this would be put right when I received my order receipt from them. When the receipt came I was the same - giving me no credit for being a subscriber and quoting the offers at the full price. I immediately notified them of this and received an email saying that due to high numbers of emails they were having to tell people they could not reply immediately, but would answer in due course.
I left it a couple of weeks until the first item from my order arrived, in good condition, but no mentioned of my email. This went on until the other day, each item being delivered separately until only one item is now outstanding. I will repeat, I MADE THIS ORDER IN MARCH!!!!! despite emailing them on numerous occasions I still have received no discount, no explanation and the last item of my order, FOR WHICH I HAVE PAID THE FULL PRICE, is still outstanding. I telephoned them, hoping that the service might be a bit better when speaking to a person rather than a machine. The call was answered about five minutes later and I was given a message to say how busy they were and would mind waiting? Well having spent so much time and effort on them to waste I decided to resist the impulse to slam the phone down (I rather believe that this was what they wanted) and I held on for another 7 or so minutes before a polite young lady answered and I explained my problem. She said she would have to speak to her supervisor and put some music on, after about 7 more minutes this changed to a ring tone and after a further couple of minutes the phone went dead. I heard a voice announcing that the other caller had terminated.
Can anyone suggest how I can get my last plant, or a reasonable explanation for what has happened? I sent another email telling that I would be telling my friends about their appalling service.
Of course there was no reply. I think Gardeners' World should strike them from their list of those who give discount to subscribers because they are getting free advertising and not giving back the service they promise. I don't think there is any excuse for their deliberately rude behaviour. I shall be going back to Crocus, who sell full sized plants in great condition for not very much more that the pathetic plugs of Van Meuven, and what's more I always get my discount even on plants that are on special offer!!!
I used to really rate T&M, but they have sunk well,below the horizon this year. The quality and size of the plants they have sent out were ridiculous, so small and thin, on the grounds they could get them throught the letter box!! Unimpressed.
I have had good service from specialist growers on line, hosta growers, pinks, alpines etc., you have a mediums ied company which cares about its products, only deals in one line, and you get good things. Evison for clematis for example seemed dreadfully expensive but I orederd 3 clematis with some birthday money last year, they were magnificent plants, and are growing into even more magnificent ones this year - as clematis are all they do, they can concentrate on those. Mixed 'nurseries' on line, just huge glass houses, don't have the same interest in the products and it shows.