I forgot to say -before I get shot down by hop lovers everywhere, the people who live over the back with this wretched hop are chavs, so not much conversation there, until they asked us to cut down our cypress because it shut out their light - guess what - they're trying to sell their house at a vastly inflated price. BUT our tree was there LONG before their house was even a property magnate's dream. PLUS when we said we can't at the moment, because of the birds nesting in it, assured us that they were members of the RSPB - just like us! B-locks! We'd already checked about our cypress, and, because it has been in situ since 1980, it's so much older than their house. SO it is entitled to be there. And it is a haven for birds. Oh, and before we have the cypress-haters jumping on the bandwagon, it is cut back every year, WHEN THE BIRDS HAVE FLOWN THEIR NESTS. In the meantime, that stinking hop just grows and grows and grows. So no change there then.