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13/04/2013 at 11:47
Hands off our Monty. Thanks Monty for giving out correct advise to hold back on sowing seeds outside till the weather warms up. Such good advise for us eager gardeners and especially the new recruits who might give up not having good results. Thanks for saving our hard earned money, that the garden centres want us to waste, and then go back and spend more money. Is it Montys fault they over ordered and are now having to dump plants cause they need the room? Why dump, why not get local communities or schools to come and take them away? I hate garden centres anyway, full of stuff and a few plants. Seek out your local nursery, they are full of good advise and good plants, no gluts at my fab one at Bunkers Hill in West Oxford, but plenty of bargain priced bare root shrubs last week. Keep on giving that good advise Monty. Does anyone know where I can get some Monty Don sweet peas? Grew Alan Titchmarsh last year, and like to share the love.
13/04/2013 at 13:30

Try a sweet pea grower. If you are lucky to be going to Chelsea next month perhaps you could visit a sweet pea stand.

If you have any success would you post it on the web site

14/04/2013 at 08:32

Hear, hear, Sparker!

14/04/2013 at 08:44

Absolutely agree Sparker  

And I have it on very good authority that the big Garden Centre just up the road from here had their highest ever takings last Thursday - they won't starve

14/04/2013 at 08:59
Dovefromabove wrote (see)

Absolutely agree Sparker  

And I have it on very good authority that the big Garden Centre just up the road from here had their highest ever takings last Thursday - they won't starve

Yet we're supposedly in a recession dove...

14/04/2013 at 09:44

I agree sparker, let them find someone else to pick on

15/04/2013 at 05:36

Thought you might like to read this Sparker...

“ 'Garden centres throwing away plants'. Peter Burks Chairman of the Garden Centre Association has decided to name a name. He says the commercial disaster is not the fault of the inclement weather, but of TV presenter Monty Don.In a recent episode of GW MD advised viewers that “There's no great hurry to plant seed, so don't panic. Don't be in a hurry. You don't have to sow anything until April.'

Quite right. The earth tends to have to hit a certain degree of warmth before seeds will germinate.

All that Burks' opinion really illustrates is how much garden centres rely on selling plants to people who don't know much about gardening. Charming.”

The Guardian. Saturday 13.4.13

15/04/2013 at 09:02

Well said Brumbull, where's the logic.....GC plant £3/=, Supermarket £1/=. Plants from same grower, result the same. Who's ripping us off? And the argument about GC spend more to give QUALITY plants does not wash really. I am not responsible for their inefficiency. They make enough dosh charging a fortune for things like "butterfly bush" and wildlife plants which are so easy. They play on the lack of experience of novice gardeners like me to make money.

15/04/2013 at 09:21

Well, our local garden center employs people who keep an eye on their plants, watering them and even hardening them off - the supermarkets stack 'em high and deep and leave them in the glazed entrance to the store with the doors open in the scorching sun  or  frosty temperatures and never notice that they need watering (I sometimes point it out but they shrug and ignore me).

Employing people to care for the plants adds to the GC's overheads - hence increased costs.

If I've only got a few pounds I know that I'd rather spend them on plants that have been cared for by people who know what they're doing .... 

 

15/04/2013 at 10:06

Rock on Monty

15/04/2013 at 10:23

Having said all that..it depends on your GC..Agree with you Dove, your quote...

'Employing people to care for the plants adds to the GC's overheads - hence increased costs. If I've only got a few pounds I know that I'd rather spend them on plants that have been cared for by people who know what they're doing .... '

is reflective of the smaller independant  GC's around here...noted some labels are the same as commercial ones but can see that the plants have been cared for until ready.

Bee

15/04/2013 at 10:56
Poor old Monty.....joe swift, carol Kleine and the rest.
One moment they are all rubbished and then they are praised to the heavens
Hopefully they wont take any notice of us.......
They all do their best, know some will like them and some won't.
I agree with Dove about GC caring for their plants. Generally that's true....viz., that the quality is much better than in supermarkets, etc. People are paid to look after these plants so the price reflects that.
15/04/2013 at 12:26

GC pretty much do most of the selling of plants between the start of spring to around the end of August which this year is 4 months out of 12 and if the weather isn't nice nobody bothers.

A supermarket can bring in a few trolleys knock out the plants and done. Now try getting anything beyond the basics from a supermarket, they are not interested. If they can't get it out the door fast they will not sell it. 

Thing is the overheads for a GC are 12 months a year and they get 4 profitable months and the rest is break even or running at a loss.

A Supermarket runs 12 months a year and garden stuff is just another seasonal range like mothers day easter and halloween and the biggy Christmas. They dont need the plants to cover the store overheads so they can charge lower prices it is that simple.

Will be surprised if there are not more closures of gardencentres by the end of the tax year.  The ones which are a combination of nursery and gc stand the best chance of surviving but the cost of heating over the winter to no avail may well close a few too.

 

15/04/2013 at 14:20
Yep, use it or lose it applies to GC too.
I support my local DIY because its so useful but it doesn't have enough trade to sustain its future....most people go to b&q etc
I buy online because I often try to purchase particular varieties of plants that GC simply do not stock. Nurseries too are a port o call for me. So I agree with blackest, GC as we know them will disappear.
15/04/2013 at 14:45

yes thank full for honest advice from the god monty (sorry love the man), i agree with the orginal post why throw away plants, give them to good causes, there are thousands of projects goverment run that could do with brightening up, plant up schools, run down high streets, derlict land anything but bining them. And i dont agree with the supermarkets getting in on selling plants, but look at the other way GC sell a wide range of products . So i think the saying is the dog eat dog ????

15/04/2013 at 16:29

that's it ,leave Monty alone,the only person responsible for the plant disaster is buyer(the person who buys for the shops from the nursery)stop looking for scapegoats and just accept its a bad start to the year.

15/04/2013 at 17:26

Well said Dove  

Dovefromabove wrote (see)

Well, our local garden center employs people who keep an eye on their plants, watering them and even hardening them off - the supermarkets stack 'em high and deep and leave them in the glazed entrance to the store with the doors open in the scorching sun  or  frosty temperatures and never notice that they need watering (I sometimes point it out but they shrug and ignore me).

Employing people to care for the plants adds to the GC's overheads - hence increased costs.

If I've only got a few pounds I know that I'd rather spend them on plants that have been cared for by people who know what they're doing ....

Supermarkets have no one to advise you on what you are buying - It is useful to pick up a bargain from there but beware - boxes of bulbs are sometimes dried out and are dead and gone as soon as you plant them.  Also, some of their pot grown plants will need hardening off if you want to plant them outside, I have learned this the hard way!!!

15/04/2013 at 18:23

It is so awful to see all those lovely plants being dumped on the tv last week. I really don't think the GC's will suffer very much, after all they sell much more than just plants which makes me wonder how they can actually call themselves Garden Centres when they are selling ornaments, glassware, crockery and even clothes, which is what the "Garden Centre" near me does. I agree with Sparker, stick to your local Nursery. Keep on giving the good advise Monty, we value it.

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