**snigger** Dan ...careful you may get a new nickname

kidding ...or am I
Ohhh figrat I had a good beat about with dough today too, we have a kenwood too but was something satisfying about making one myself.....darn bread programme other night !!

next is homemade pizza too...
Becks making things go further will be much cheaper for you and once you have your veggies , be able to freeze excess , make up things and freeze

I find it satisfying cooking too ..practice that's all .
Derek my back passage is quite narrow but long ...generally empty though