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06/04/2012 at 22:41

I have 3 large water buts which I use to water the garden more than anything to save money on the water bill if i'm honest. During the current ban am I allowed to use a pump and a hose to water the garden?

Thanks

06/04/2012 at 23:05

As far as I know! Think the ban only applies to a hose connected to the mains water so I cant imagine a pump in a water butt being a problem - it's just another way of getting the water out rather than filling a can from it! 

08/04/2012 at 08:54

I would check with your local water supplier.  My Dad told me of a man who used a hose pipe to drain the water from his bath to water his plants, this was during the last hose pipe ban, this man was still fined.  Don't risk it without checking.

18/04/2012 at 11:14

Here are the guidelines from Anglian water. 

Although not specifically stated, I am pretty sure from the examples given, that a hosepipe with a trigger gun on  the end, used solely to fill up watering cans, is OK. 

http://www.anglianwater.co.uk/environment/water-resources/4025142DE63E4E96897DAC2FE1E519CE.aspx

18/04/2012 at 19:47

Thanks for the above Gold1locks. It's pretty specific and answers all the previously posed questions.

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18/04/2012 at 19:48

Apoogies for the above mess. It obviously doesn't work to cut and paste from web sites.

18/04/2012 at 20:03
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18/04/2012 at 20:07

Aaaarrrrgggghhhh! Well, that's cocked this thread up good and proper. Just discovered that cut and paste does not work like it does on the Beeb site, and there is no message preview sjo you can check before posting. I'll know next time. 

18/04/2012 at 20:09

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/apr/04/hosepipe-ban

They reckon you can in the article above - read from,What can hosepipes still be used for?............Or, read the full thing.

But if your still unsure, email your water company.

18/04/2012 at 20:17

Here is a link to the drought Q&A's on the Southern Water website:

http://www.southernwater.co.uk/Environment/WaterResourcesLatest/Drought2012FAQ.asp

18/04/2012 at 21:05

As far as I know, it is fine to use a hose attached to a water butt. The ban applies to hoses run from a mains water supply.

You could run a hose to syphon water from your bath, for instance, out of a window and onto your garden.

Several companies now produce pumps to take water from butts and distribute it via a hose, and these should be fine to use.

19/04/2012 at 17:38

I am baffled about the person who got fined for using a hose to run his bathwater - presumably used? - down to the garden - what was he fined for?  There are gadgets sold for that very purpose, which are basically hoses with a closure valve on them as far as I can see.

19/04/2012 at 18:03

If he had a water meter they may have noticed he had excessive water use, which may imply that the water was not being recycled from the bath.

19/04/2012 at 20:36

I have a feeling that the fine story may be apocryphal

19/04/2012 at 20:40

Me too. It sounds like gobbledigook.

02/05/2012 at 08:54

No it's not gobbledygook.  Where i used to live, Folk thought that using a hosepipe for either draining out water from the bath or off a water butt was fine. some were fined, an article went in the local paper with a headline similar to 'HOSE PIPE BAN MEANS HOSES ARE BANNED. An offical came round to the local gardening club and took questions about it. I left after about 30mins. There was no doubt there was a ban on hosepipes.  As he said they couldn't stop you filling your bath and using a bucket to get the clean water out, which I thought was fine for folk in bungalow but pointless.  i also saw the plans for the new 'oxbridge ark' 330,000 extra houses to be built................... but no plans for reservoirs...... Glad I moved from the ever growing rat run.

05/05/2012 at 00:37

The man on the radio from the water company at the start of the hosepipe ban this year said no one had ever been fined as they preferred to just have a word with someone and help them to find alternatives.

Gross use of hoses for golf clubs and sports fields are a different matter.

05/05/2012 at 07:26

Maybe chap ought to have a word with the editor of the paper where I used to live. They reported some folk fined.  But maybe that was a scaree tactic......... who knows.

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