Lilylouise, I wish I had your perseverance and stamina. I took some cuttings, probably 30 or 40 all at one go recently. Should do more but I guess I'm a bit lazy. With me the pineapple safe, salvia elegant, I think, survives outdoors but Its foliage scent rivals that of lemon verbena. I have it in flower now......red flowers some 4 or 5 feet high. You have encouraged me to take some more cuttings and will do so tomorrow