BusyLizzie, thanks, we do have horrid clay with all the new build rubble about 6 inches down. I've debated back and forth about raised beds, but admit getting alittle adicte to buying bargin pots 
break23 thank you, very kind.
Tinkerfluffypaws, i know you're right and Norm2 the lawn does look ok in these, but truth is the rain has turned it into a swamp and the garden wall and neighbours house deprived it of sun so come March i'm having a patio and gravel laid. no one on our estate has a lawn!!
i'll put some later ones on