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29/03/2014 at 15:39

My friend has a box of this whitish powder which claims it's powdered volcanic rock.  It's supposed to be used to fix nutrients near the plants, when you add fertiliser on top of it.

I've never heard of this.  Does anyone know what it is, what it does and how it works?

(apologies if this turns up twice - it seemed to be in the talkback section, which it isn't )

29/03/2014 at 15:43

Whitish powder ?  Did it come with a rolled up Fiver to snort it thru

Seriously, I've never heard of it so be interested to see what others comment.

29/03/2014 at 15:46

Hmmm... no  - if it had we'd be off to Costa Rica or somewhere coz it's a 2kg box!

29/03/2014 at 16:07

Ah well.......just a thought

If it is volcanic rock, I'd always been under the impression that it is an inert material.

I imagine Edd or Mike Allen would be the best people to answer this query.  Sorry Steve..........just seemed too good to pass up

29/03/2014 at 16:35
Try Wikipedia. It has a short entry on this stuff and it doesn't mention gardening though Thai farming pops up.
29/03/2014 at 18:08

I have seen powdered volcanic rock for sale, supposed to add minerals to the soil, B&Q sell it under the Verve brand, some people swear by it.

29/03/2014 at 20:57

Just found this http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MtBkWDdpJiU

It's a type of clay, apparently, derived from volcanich ash.  Loads of it quarried in USA - so it clearly has an environmental impact.

It seems that you mix it into the top foot of your sandy soil - looks like about a handful per square foot - to increase its water- and nutrient-holding capacity.

They seem keen on it in Oz - Perth has sandy soil like I do.

Anyone used it?

31/03/2014 at 07:11

You can use it as a pond liner.

31/03/2014 at 09:53

It's also used for clearing wine.

Steve, I have Sandy soil in part of the garden. Perth is a whole new game. They don't call the western Australians sandgropers for no reason. The only grass that will grow is called buffalo grass. I broke a spade trying to dig it up at my friends new house.

31/03/2014 at 10:19

The link above is to a TV clip from Perth.

Tried it in my friend's garden (in northern Belgium) yesterday and it seemed to do the trick.  Time will tell if it holds the nutrients & water in, as claimed.  She has very sandy soil, as do I in Liverpool.

Edd
31/03/2014 at 10:24

Bentonite Clay is a body detox and is also used to clear contaminated/stagnant ponds. It is very miraculous stuff that cleans ponds in an instant but it is also very controversial.

"Bentonite Clay is an effective and powerful healing clay used to treat both 
internal and external maladies. Its greatest power lies in its ability to absorb toxins, impurities, heavy metals and other internal contaminants. When mixed with water, it rapidly swells open like a highly porous sponge. The toxins are drawn in by electrical attraction and are then bound and flushed out of the system."

You can see how these effects would clean a pond.

31/03/2014 at 10:30

Yes.  I suspect any finely divided clay would behave in the same way. 

Whence stems the controversy?  The quarries needed for extraction?

Edd
31/03/2014 at 11:13

Yes. That point is relevant but as the clay is used to clean water contaminated by toxic material like industrial waste. The product has to go somewhere in the end. There are several different types of Bentonite Clay and the FSA has found online bought products contaminated with lead and arsenic. so avoid the following.

"The FSA is advising people not to purchase or consume the following products:

  • Bentonite Clay, sold by buywholefoodsonline.co.uk
  • Bentonite Clay, sold by nealsyardremedies.com
  • Calcium Bentonite Clay, sold by natures-harvest.co.uk
  • French Green Montmorillonite Clay sold by naturalrussia.com
  • Premium Calcium Montmorillonite Clay, sold by synergy-health.co.uk
  • Edible Earth digestive detoxicant and ionic mineral supplement, sold by detoxpeople.eu and wholesalehealthltd.co.uk

This is not a definitive list of products or retailers. There may well be other brands, online and shop retailers selling similar products."

If it seems too good to be true, then it probably is!

04/04/2014 at 18:48

...so they're selling off the clay that's been used to absorb (actually, probably aDsorb) toxic heavy metals for us to put on our gardens?  Where we grow food? 

Shurley shome mishtake?  Either that or something needs to be done about it!  Do the Environment Agency know?  Trading Standards?  And if the FSA know about it, why is it still available?!

04/04/2014 at 18:48

...and to EAT?

04/04/2014 at 18:57

Think I'll stick to FYM - at least I know where that's been 

04/04/2014 at 19:16

LOL Dove

 

But you have a point!

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