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Peat B

Then I suggest that you get an ipod and play Creedence Clearwater Revival at full volume, and see if that will assuage the terrors of the untersee geists !  Good music whatever the situation !


Excellent music Peat. 

Erica that looks lovely and we nearly bought that one! We went for a slightly different shape in the same range. They are definitely preformed ponds as we saw the same ones on several web sites dedicated to ponds. I'm not reading the other comments that got a bit heated 

Looks great, it's alot neater than mine. My pond is under a tree aswell and whilst the leaves are annoying it takes no time to clean with a small-ish net.

Feel free to check it out -

Hi Erica, 

I have also installed the same pond in my garden. It's a perfect size for us and is Solely for wildlife bar fish! Have you had any visitors to yours yet? We have only had ours in the ground a fortnight. 

Good luck with it. Fingers crossed we will hear a lovely frog chorus one evening


Great reading, although i am a bit late "last post 03 may", I will write my pond story, 3 years ago i decided to dig a GOLDFISH  aargghhh pond, When spring arrived so did frogs and toads, after nature took its course i had frogspawn by the bucket full, alas the fish ate all the tadpoles, so the next 2 years i took the spawn to a pond/lake. This winter i have decided to dig another pond just for the wildlife. I know some folk would get rid of the GOLDFISH, But i like to watch them, so 2 ponds for me. 

Hi Erica, I was just trawling the net for small ponds and this post came up. How is your pond now? Mine is teeming with all sorts of wildlife. Best thing I ever did was install this bernuda cove pond. The frogs absolutely love it.
Peat B

I have a mind to make a second pond for toads, somewhere at the opposite end of the lotty, near a hedge. Toadies are rare up here, and I'd like to get a new population established. It's unfortunate that toads and frogs don't get on. As I live in Alnwick, Northumberland, if there is anyone out there who can help with toad spawn, I'd be pleased to hear from you.


Why do you think toads and frogs don't get along Peat? They just often have different requirements. Frogs like smaller ponds in general, with no fish and few invertebrate predators.

Toads on the whole prefer larger ponds and will live alongside fish because their tadpoles taste truly dreadful.

There are though plenty of medium sized 'mixed' ponds with populations of both that I know of.  If you want to introduce toads, forget the spawn, it is laid in strings around vegetation. You want the tadpoles. 

Peat B

Hi Gemma, I had heard that with frogs and toads,, one or the other, tends t eat the spawn f the other. Probably, from your comment about toad spawn being 'distasteful' , it is probably toads eating frog's spawn.  May I stand corrected by anyone ?



Probably confusion with newts Peat.

Frog and toad tadpoles get on fine. They don't really mix much and have different habits. Frog tadpoles will group but become loaners in time, they feed by grazing at the edge of the pond and around plants, mostly on algae to being with. Toad tadpoles swim more in the open water and are always vegetarian, filtering food out of the water rather than grazing. They can be seen forming large shoals as they feed. They have very little impact on each other. Neither will eat the spawn of the other.


Hi All

New here so i'm not sure of the conventions - as to whether to create another pond thread about my own, or tag it on here...but then I maybe hi-jacking this one...

I've a well established pond which attracts all kinds of wild like, including frogspawn. The one shame is that it can't completely fill as it must have a leak. I'm worried that if I replace it in October (which is when i believe is best for wildlife) then i'll lose all the little creatures that always inhabit it. I've heard a 'new' pond can take a couple of years to establish itself...or will it just carry on and i'll get frogspawn again next year?

You can see the exposed pond-liner:








Hi Mark, welcome to the forum. Not my place to say if you have followed the right conventions but it's a friendly place and not many threads stay on track for long. 

October will be a great time to do the work, least amount of animals in the pond. Collect all the sludge from the bottom and some of the water, put it in buckets and add it to the new pond. That way you'll keep all the invertebrates that live in there and any tadpoles that are left over as some overwinter occasionally and finish development the next year.

The frogs will be back in the spring and I'm sure they will be happy with their new home. 

Hi Gemma, thanks. Ok I'm reassured! Thanks! Iwonder if it's possible to find the hole if I examine all along the water line ? I'd imagine it would be hard - wonder if anyone has managed to and repair it in-situ ....
Peat B

I had this prob a couple of years back. What I did was, empty the pond, put some carpet underfelt in and then put another liner over the untraceable leak, it has worked a treat with minimal effort. It also gave me the opportunity to slightly enlarge the pond, just a tad, but it HAS made a difference. Good luck with your pond. Welcome to the madhouse !



Hi guys we have been thinking about a small wildlife pond but how shallow can we get away with?

I know it sounds odd but I've a worry about deep ponds and grandchildren.  Ever year we have a solitary toad who patrols our hosta s and keeps the area slug free I would like to encourage more predator s.


30 cm is a minimum really. 60 cm is much more ideal for the garden pond primrosecottage because being gardeners we are bound to want a variety of plants. The safest thing to do with grandchildren is to buy a grid that goes over the entire pond. The holes are big enough for wildlife to get in and out, small enough to prevent children drowning.

I've no idea who this chap is, but I borrowed the picture from the web as it illustrates the idea of the grids very well.

Thanks Gemma  He's quite sure of himself but it looks like the answer if it's to be a pond rather than a bog garden 


I pulled out a bit of blanketweed and some slimey type stuff the other day. (I had noticed a backswimmer attempting front crawl as he couldn't get around on his back in the weed). I just find it so difficult to 'leave at the side of the pond' because I know that it's full of mayfly larvae, beetles of different sizes and the odd dragonfly larva. So I then have to go through it all carefully to get most of the critters out. If I didn't put my reading glasses on I wouldn't even see them. then I worry about all the eggs I'm probably destroying. It's a worry this pond business. 

Where does all my Hornwort go? Have put loads in over the last year but never seems to carry on growing.


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