Posted: 06/05/2015 at 12:09
I have Lady's Mantle, Alchemilla, in several spots in my garden. If you don't have masses of it it's easy to stop it self seeding. As the flowers start to go brownish reach down to the bottom of the stem and tug. The come away easily.
I also think the second plant is Honesty, Lunaria, easily weeded out as they don't have strong roots.
PS don't but the Alchemilla seeds heads in the compost bin but you knew that already didn't you.?